Quote from bluud:
It is illogical to assume most these technologies you have mentioned came out of universities or the personnel that work there, including professors ... technologies are a result of real team work, plus high pays for serious and smart people specially during war times ... the core knowledge of these tools; cars, planes, laptops, cellphone, satellites, medicine and much more are all the result of some war, some time in human history ... or if not a war, military research ... and not university research ...
all university people do is go through declassified data from the military and other intelligence and rewrite them in their own so called professional style ... making universities so attractive to the dorks ...
Bluud. It would be irresponsible of me to let your nonsensical post go unanswered. I said nothing to even suggest that the technologies i mentioned came out of Universities, though, in fact, many of them did. But just where do you think that Ph.D.'s come from?
Consider just the National Laboratories for a moment: Sandia-Albuquerque, Sandia-Livermore, Lawrence-Livermore, Los Alamos, Brookhaven, Argonne, etc. Do you think the leadership in these laboratories are a bunch of idiots? Who are the prime contractors for these Laboratories? How about, the University of California, the University of Chicago, etc. Are you aware of that? Why don't you take the time to go to a few of the Websites for these laboratories. If you do, you will find for example under Brookhaven:
"In 1946, representatives from nine major eastern universities â Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Princeton, University of Pennsylvania, University of Rochester, and Yale â formed a nonprofit corporation to establish a new science facility, and they chose a surplus army base âway out on Long Islandâ as the site.
Are you aware that the scientific staff at the Los Alamos laboratory are University of California employees, not Government employees?
Where did you get your crazy ideas. Are you aware that the Manhatten project was lead by US and European academics (Ph.D.'s by the way) not by the Army.
The bulk of Basic Research in the United States is done in our Universities under the direction of Ph.D.'s. Almost all of what is not, is done in National Laboratories, Laboratories of American Industry, or in the basic research laboratories of government. NIH, NASA, Army, Navy, Airforce, etc., and virtually all of this research is done under the direction of Ph.D.'s. Much of the Army, Navy and Air Force and Private industry's basic research is contracted to and performed in University Laboratories. There is virtually no Basic research done in Universities, the National Laboratories, in the Army. Navy or Air Force Research facilities, or for that matter, anywhere else in this country. that is not directed by Ph.D.'s.
Argonne is Univ. of Chicago. Lawrence is Univ. of Calif. Berkeley. I believe, but am not certain, that Sandia's and Oakridge's prime contractors are corporations.
I just don't understand where these very, very wrong, nutball, ideas are coming from.