safety of aspartame/nutrasweet

Quote from smilingsynic:

Well, I did some research on the book that was cited in the iron magazine forum. I am always skeptical, and this water book sounded like hooey. I guess there are others who have their doubts.

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/batman.html

Yeah there are experts on both sides, each with their own opinions & agendas. Seems like they study the same thing & come up with the opposite conclusion some how. For me, it's not worth it to consume aspartame or sucralose...I only had to switch to a different yogurt.

As to your question about sucralose, I believe it causes the same insulin reaction as aspartame....someone please chime in if I am mistaken.
 
Quote from smilingsynic:

Just because Weil is an M.D. does not necessarily mean that his advice is sound. I have read his articles in PREVENTION magazine (a gift from my health fadish parents), and his reasoning is often poor, his evidence, weak. And yet he is popular.

It must be the beard.

JMO.
His reasoning seems to be better than most, in my own opinion. I generally like his frame of reference. He typically recommends things that have either been proven to be effective in clinical studies, or have been shown, with reasonable confidence, not to be detrimental. He is very well educated and experienced, evidently highly intelligent and obviously well spoken. When he talks, I tend to listen. Even so, I offered 3 hyperlinks on stevia in case any one of them didn't do it for you. You now have 2 others to choose from.
 
Quote from smilingsynic:

Biochemically, why does aspartame (Equal) produce a sucrose-like effect on raising insulin levels whereas sucralose (Splenda) does not?


All of the synthetics share activity. I was referring to the metabolites/redox products.
 
health and fitness has been my 'other' passion for years and this was something I read up on for awhile, because I drink tons of diet soda.

The gist seems to be that yes, artificial sweeteners have shown some ill effects in rats, but...

1.) the rats were given the equivalent of hundreds of cans of soda a day, ridiculous.

2.) The labratory environment itself has been shown to have ill effects on rats, so thats a confounding variable.

3.) You cannot really extrapolate this stuff to humans because a rat has such a fast metabolism, any effect at all will be maginified in them....plus they're rats, not humans.

Somebody mentioned the cephalic response to insulin, I really don't think thats an issue. If you realize all of a sudden aspartame makes you stupid hungry, get some will power.
 
funny headaches to wicked headaches.

I also have noticed an increase in friends and acquaintances knowing people who have had brain cancer.

All of them have been young heavy diet coke drinkers.
(take it for what its worth)
 
Quote from jem:

funny headaches to wicked headaches.

I also have noticed an increase in friends and acquaintances knowing people who have had brain cancer.

All of them have been young heavy diet coke drinkers.
(take it for what its worth)

Do you have any evidence, or just some ridiculous anecdotes?
 
Quote from LivermoresGhost:

Do you have any evidence, or just some ridiculous anecdotes?

I have not seen any SCIENTIFIC evidence that aspartame causes serious health problems. Anecdotal evidence is apparently all the fearmongers can bring to the table.

That doesn't mean that I am going against what I said about cutting down on the Diet Coke.
 
C'mon guy's, if rats could tell "anecdotes" or describe symptoms, the product would NEVER have made it into your bloodstream.


Anyone think of THAT? You have humans describing symptoms, and you still dont beleive them?
 
Quote from John47:


3.) You cannot really extrapolate this stuff to humans because a rat has such a fast metabolism, any effect at all will be maginified in them....plus they're rats, not humans.



So because humans supposedly have a slower metabolim than
rats it makes it okay to drown ourselves with synthetic chemicals?

And btw, we are evolved from rodents believe it or not.

The reason they do experiments on rats is because of their short lifespan.

That way we can find out if chemicals, ect will fark us up if we use
them over our lifetime, during our lifetime, before we have poisoned ourselves to death.
 
Quote from eastside:


"Here’s where we get at the heart of the matter so far as fitness is concerned. When you ingest Aspartame, your body releases insulin to try to bind to it as if it was glucose. However, our body is so amazing that it can’t bind to it. “That’s amazing?” you ask. What’s amazing is that your body’s hormones act like locks and keys with specific substances. Only the exact substances will fit into the each hormone. It’s a perfect system that developed over millions of years of evolution.



But Aspartame was developed relatively recently – not enough time has elapsed and our bodies have not yet adapted to the new substance. So what happens? Your body releases insulin in response to the Aspartame, it can’t bind to it, and you become hypoglycemic (low blood sugar). Why? Because whatever glucose that you had flowing in your bloodstream will now be eaten up by the insulin. So your blood sugar drops and you begin to crave sweets in an innate attempt to bring your blood sugar levels back to normal. You eat or drink something and your blood sugar levels rise – but now they rise too high.



At this point I’ve already written a lot, so I’m going to attempt to shorten this long story. Suffice it to say that your blood sugar goes on this roller-coaster ride throughout your day. Those highs and lows cause you to store body fat. So you’re trying to “watch your calories” in order to lose weight and the aspartame is having the exact opposite affect! How’s that for disappointing? Maybe it’s time to stop drinking so many Diet Cokes and start drinking some water. Just a thought."


Here is another link also posted a couple pages back which talks about this insulin reaction....

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/history/topic/11943-1.html



If insulin were released after ingesting aspartame as a reaction to increased blood sugar, aspartame would not be recommended for diabetics.

Consider this from the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/artificial-sweeteners/AN00348
 
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