Saddam Closer To Bomb Than Anyone Thought

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Ok fine...whatever.

Tell me this....has there ever been one shred of evidence found of 1) a Nuclear weapons program. 2) a BW program... No there hasn't.

Even Mr. Bush had to concede out of shear conscience....that there weren't even ongoing "Mass Destruction program related activities." God was that some tortured language or what?

Listen hapa, Douber, whomever...if you can show that I'm wrong in anything I've said here regarding WMD's you be sure to let me know. And I'll take it under advisment.

Otherwise.....:D:D:D:DD:D
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Too bad ya gotta be such a smartass.

Did I lace my post with sarcasm? No. I clearly merely said "comments?" because I wanted clarificiation. Prof. Bond did so, albeit not without sarcasm, for which I am grateful anyway.

As to your asking about a single shred of evidence found regarding a nuclear or biological weapons program, please consider the following:

1) Why were 1.8 tons of low-enriched uranium, enough, according to some scientists, to be enough for a single nuke, found at Tuwaitha? If we had indeed dismantled Saddam's program, what was it doing there? And why was it found amidst 500 tons of yellowcake?

2) Centrifuges. The physicist who ran Saddam's centrifuge program says that after the first Gulf War, the program was largely dismantled. But it wasn't destroyed.

In his 2004 book, "The Bomb in My Garden," Dr. Mahdi Obeidi told U.S. interrogators: "Saddam kept funding the IAEC [Iraq Atomic Energy Commission] from 1991 ... until the war in 2003."

"I was developing the centrifuge for the weapons" right through 1997, he revealed.

Dr. Obeidi said Saddam ordered him under penalty of death to keep the technology available to resume Iraq's nuke program at a moment's notice.

Obeidi said he buried "the full set of blueprints, designs - everything to restart the centrifuge program - along with some critical components of the centrifuge" under the garden of his Baghdad home.

"The centrifuge is the single most dangerous piece of nuclear technology," Dr. Obeidi says in his book. "With advances in centrifuge technology, it is now possible to conceal a uranium enrichment program inside a single warehouse."

And yes, the centrifuges were dug up:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/

Inspector David Kay said, "There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors couldn't have done it."

Evidence of an existing nuclear program? No.

Evidence of Saddam's hiding materiel and equipment to start up the program when he was again able to? Seems like it.

And is George Sada, ex-Iraqi Air Force general who says WMD was tranferred to Syria, not credible at all?

Forget your partisanship for a moment and consider all of the above.

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Quote from acronym:

So, hap-are you suggesting, the suitcase nuke scenario is unrealistic?
Thats big volume your talking about .
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Not sure what you're referring to....I assume you mean the suitcase nukes from the former Soviet Union. What does that have to do with Iraq?
 
Quote from hapaboy:

Not sure what you're referring to....I assume you mean the suitcase nukes from the former Soviet Union. What does that have to do with Iraq?
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The former soviet union had suitcases?
Well thats news to me, i imagined they used burlap bags and animal skins to contain their top-secret WMD's.
In much the same manner, osama escaped on a donkey, low tech like.

Damn lousy-blue -phone- to- establishment headquarters-livin- in- oahu-troll.
 
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