SAC"s DEMARK finally speaks!

Quote from Thunderdog:

If he boasts about charging $100,000 to clients for his services, then surely one of the big funds can buy him via exclusive contract. I can't quite understand why a large firm that gen...

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Make up your mind, surf.


I'm not sure what you are getting at.

Are you suggesting his background and client list is fabricated, based on bizzare correlations and misguided ideas on how things should be in this business?

surf
 
Quote from Surdo:

When the one institution manipulates the price of a stock during the negotiation process of 7 figures between 2 other institutions so he can buy his 25K on a cleanup cheaper after he ran ahead of the print, is this ok with you? This is assuming you have worked on an institutional desk and understand what I am talking about.

Stevie Cohen is nothing but a bottom feeder, the biggest.

lol, I thought that counted as skilled disciplined trading.
 
Quote from TrueRange:

If the man does not risk his own money then I dont care.

See what you have done? Made me exceed my weekly post count limit in one thread. :D


I tend to agree. But it is possible to be a good trader with good ideas but sans the balls to execute.

You have to admit that.
 
I do not want to get deep into this because I have information about some of the very big names in Greenwich, (not that I care because the info does not do me any good) but if you think these guys really need to hire performance coaches.... your nuts.

IMHO some of these top fund guys practice resume dressing and disinformation campaigns.

I would not be surprised if a SAC put a guy like this on his staff to deflect the charges of trading with inside information.

Lets see... is SAC more likely to catch the clean up print due to a TD 13 countdown or because someone on the trading desk at a big brokerage said they had one more seller and then they were going to print a large block. Do they want the shares? Why else would a hedge fund be paying 5 cents a share if not for inside info.
 
Quote from jem:

Lets see... is SAC more like to catch the clean up print due to a TD 13 countdown or because someone on the trading desk at a big brokerage said they had one more seller and then they were going to print a large block. Do they want the shares? Why else would a hedge fund be paying 5 cents a share if not for inside info.

B-I-N-G-O!

There is something called "the first call" which is not necessarily inside info, but the best info, and SAC of shit certainly knows how to pay for the best info.

el surdo
 
I had a client who was President of a tech company.

He had a couple of wall street banks on retainers. The number made me a bit envious. Based on facts which I knew... I asked why do you need their services.

He said they look after my company.

After being around him for a year... it was not the company they were looking after it was him.

The information and the looks he got more than made up for the fees he was paying.

I shiver when I think about the advantages these hedge funds get. Especially the ones whose biggest blocks of investors may be the higher ups at the very banks they are doing business with.

The looks they get must be insane.
 
Quote from jem:

The looks they get must be insane.
And so long as nobody finds out, it's all good.



For them, not for us... but it's not like you're going to change human nature, now is it? :confused:
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

I'm not sure what you are getting at.

Are you suggesting his background and client list is fabricated, based on bizzare correlations and misguided ideas on how things should be in this business?

surf
I'm merely pointing out that some pieces don't quite fit with one another as presented. Any conclusions you draw beyond that are your own.
 
Quote from Surdo:

B-I-N-G-O!

There is something called "the first call" which is not necessarily inside info, but the best info, and SAC of shit certainly knows how to pay for the best info.

el surdo


If it isnt illegal, isnt that called an edge?

Iu bet you cry every night over the idiot daytraders on wisetrade whose mony you take....

whats the difference between SAC and anyone wiht a legal edge? YOU* ARE BOTH TAKIGN MONEY FROM THE MORE NAIVE ANDUNSOPHISTICTED.

you got some issues with the busines itselfl face it GUILT anyone?:D :D
 
No problem.

But let's not compare some 9 foot guy and say he's a better basketball player than you.


Shit, he's 9 feet tall.

If SAC buys info you can't possibly get and trades ahead, thats not skill or smarts. That's scamming.
 
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