Ryan Jones PDS Option Trader real? Or Total Scam?

[Thor]

Not all good practitioners are great teachers

It depends entirely on the sport.
A fast paced sport like basketball is difficult to coach when a player doesn't know how he creates a result.
It happens unconciously without concious thinking.

Not so for a slower paced game like golf where thinking time is in plenty.
90% of the shot is in the setup, it's possible for an experienced eye to tell how the shot will go before it is played. The techniques of the game are passed on only by word of mouth.

A player is running to catch a ball travelling at 60mph. He has to be in exactly the right place at the right time.

Thousands of calculations are going on in his head which he has no knowledge of.......how fast the ball is moving, how fast he has to run, a projection of where the ball will be 2 seconds from now and at what distance from the ground, and all those calculations are being updated every 100 milliseconds to be fed into his muscles to increase/decrease speed.....jump/nojump, raise hands at the right time at the right angle to catch the ball.

Impossible to compute conciously.

Skill acquisition passes thru 4 levels
L1- you don't know that you don't know
L2- you know that you don't know

L3- you don't know that you know
L4- you know that you know
There are many players who reach L3 and never go beyond it for the rest of their lives.
Only 5% of L3 players make it to L4.

The L3 players can become greats, but the L4s are the legends, the biggest difference is that the L3s have off days, whereas the L4s can produce their best at will.

 

[tommcginnis]

It depends entirely on the sport.
A fast paced sport like basketball is difficult to coach when a player doesn't know how he creates a result.
It happens unconciously without concious thinking.

Not so for a slower paced game like golf where thinking time is in plenty.
90% of the shot is in the setup, it's possible for an experienced eye to tell...

You're nearly a third correct. Not bad.

Neither of Bob Knight or John Wooden -- arguably two of round-ball's very best coaches -- were any good as players.

Whereas in golf, the best players are coached by unknowns: their caddies.

So much for "those that can, do -- those that can't, teach..."

 

[Windlesham1]

Ever been to a Guthrie Govan masterclass?

 

[ironchef]

It depends entirely on the sport.
A fast paced sport like basketball is difficult to coach when a player doesn't know how he creates a result.
It happens unconciously without concious thinking.

Not so for a slower paced game like golf where thinking time is in plenty.
90% of the shot is in the setup, it's possible for an experienced eye to tell how the shot will go before it is played. The techniques of the game are passed on only by word of mouth.

A player is running to catch a ball travelling at 60mph. He has to be in exactly the right place at the right time.

Thousands of calculations are going on in his head which he has no knowledge of.......how fast the ball is moving, how fast he has to run, a projection of where the ball will be 2 seconds from now and at what distance from the ground, and all those calculations are being updated every 100 milliseconds to be fed into his muscles to increase/decrease speed.....jump/nojump, raise hands at the right time at the right angle to catch the ball.

Impossible to compute conciously.

Skill acquisition passes thru 4 levels
L1- you don't know that you don't know
L2- you know that you don't know

L3- you don't know that you know
L4- you know that you know
There are many players who reach L3 and never go beyond it for the rest of their lives.
Only 5% of L3 players make it to L4.

The L3 players can become greats, but the L4s are the legends, the biggest difference is that the L3s have off days, whereas the L4s can produce their best at will.

Thank you for your response but I am confused. Are you saying to learn successful day trading, I do (or do not?) need a successful trader to teach me?

 

[ironchef]

I look at likelihood of a winner- taking into account firstly the risk- so yes I will look at the Greeks but I cannot currently make sense of Vega in this Covid era. I like to get theat and vol on my side, and get close to delta neutral.

Thank you for taking the time to answer.

 

[Thor]

You're nearly a third correct. Not bad.

Neither of Bob Knight or John Wooden -- arguably two of round-ball's very best coaches -- were any good as players.

Whereas in golf, the best players are coached by unknowns: their caddies.

So much for "those that can, do -- those that can't, teach..."

I was a National Champion in an individual sport and holder of a National record which can never be beaten,only equalled. I don't consider myself talented but I am a hard worker.
When I started playing, my performance was very very average, until I met a coach who changed everything. Before he retired from the game, he was the World No.3.

Coaches who have acheived, are not in it for the money, they want students who are going to be LOYAL to them. This is the unspoken expectation which will never be revealed.

The students who show loyalty will be given the REAL knowledge to transform their performance. I was given it after months of coaching and it transformed me in a few days from average to excellent.
It can be summed up in 1 sentence and it will transform the worst player into a great one.

I spent over 25 years juggling carreer and sport before I realised it wasn't possible to do both together and left the game. Many years later after leaving the game, I searched through books and videos to see if I could find any reference to the gem which changed me.

There was none. The biggest secrets are passed on by word of mouth only.

Only those who can do, can teach.
If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of GIANTS - Isaac Newton

Thank you for your response but I am confused. Are you saying to learn successful day trading, I do (or do not?) need a successful trader to teach me?

My reply to your prior post was only in the context of sport.
However, the results you produce in most fields will be nearly the same as your coach.

 

[faust]

Here is the thing that always gets me thinking. In a capitalistic system that we have most people will do what maximizes their return. If Ryan Jones or any "Guru" out there really could do "Risk Free Trading" then would it not make sense that they would just never talk about it and JUST DO IT THEMSELVES and make millions every three days as his video shows and go live on an island somewhere.

Also, I would think, that if anyone truly had the "Holy Grail" of trading then they would be so afraid of sharing it because if the trading "system" really worked then thousands of people flooding into the system would destroy it because of the simple law of supply and demand.

I can't help but go back to the old refrain

Those That Can Do
Those That Can't Teach

Those who can't teach - teach PhysEd

 

[newwurldmn]

I was a National Champion in an individual sport and holder of a National record which can never be beaten,only equalled. I don't consider myself talented but I am a hard worker.
When I started playing, my performance was very very average, until I met a coach who changed everything. Before he retired from the game, he was the World No.3.

Coaches who have acheived, are not in it for the money, they want students who are going to be LOYAL to them. This is the unspoken expectation which will never be revealed.

The students who show loyalty will be given the REAL knowledge to transform their performance. I was given it after months of coaching and it transformed me in a few days from average to excellent.
It can be summed up in 1 sentence and it will transform the worst player into a great one.

I spent over 25 years juggling carreer and sport before I realised it wasn't possible to do both together and left the game. Many years later after leaving the game, I searched through books and videos to see if I could find any reference to the gem which changed me.

There was none. The biggest secrets are passed on by word of mouth only.

Only those who can do, can teach.
If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of GIANTS - Isaac Newton


My reply to your prior post was only in the context of sport.
However, the results you produce in most fields will be nearly the same as your coach.

shot an 18 on golf?

 

[easymon1]

I ran across This "Guru" Ryan Jones and It looks like he does Diagonals and Calendars on short term SPY and is calling it the greatest discovery on earth. Has anyone tried his "system" and does it work?

Are you still around?

 

[The_Krakenite]

- calling it the greatest discovery on earth.

Interesting. This is exactly what all the fakesters use to attract the desperate & gullible.

I am so glad that someone who has found the greatest discovery on earth is willing to share their secrets with everyone else. How noble. I've always wanted a perpetual money-making-machine!