Russians confirm that UK climate scientists manipulated data to exaggerate global

Quote from Gabfly1:

I think it's fascinating and quite instructive that there is a very high correlation between those who believe in creationism and those who choose to deny the reality of climate change, its contributory causes and its implications. The careful and studied aversion to in-your-face science seems to be the underlying theme.

What is the story with you trying to link stuff together that really has no link.

Global Warming is not linked with smoking.

Global Warming is not linked with creationism.

You are the king of strawman arguments.
 
Quote from drjekyllus:

What is the story with you trying to link stuff together that really has no link.

Global Warming is not linked with smoking.

Global Warming is not linked with creationism.

You are the king of strawman arguments.
Ask your guardian to thread it for you.
 
Quote from Gabfly1:

I think it's fascinating and quite instructive that there is a very high correlation between those who believe in creationism and those who choose to deny the reality of climate change, its contributory causes and its implications. The careful and studied aversion to in-your-face science seems to be the underlying theme.

It's the anti-intellectualism that's popular. Scientists are the "elites" who look down on the good, decent working man.

This is an offshoot from the "plain folks" propaganda technique where the politician attempts to convince others that he's "of the people" where others are not. This is done by faking an accent (ie. George W. Bush) as well as convincing people that the "elites" are against them and not like them.

Republicans have been using this regularly because it is effective, and the logical outgrowth of this is for listeners to take it to the next level of anti-intellectualism.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

It's the anti-intellectualism that's popular. Scientists are the "elites" who look down on the good, decent working man.

This is an offshoot from the "plain folks" propaganda technique where the politician attempts to convince others that he's "of the people" where others are not. This is done by faking an accent (ie. George W. Bush) as well as convincing people that the "elites" are against them and not like them.

Republicans have been using this regularly because it is effective, and the logical outgrowth of this is for listeners to take it to the next level of anti-intellectualism.
Exactly.

On a side note, I think it's breathtaking how the world's only remaining superpower is so riddled with stupidity, ignorance and brazenly corrupt self-interest. Just when you think the tide may have turned, the zealots start pulling the country back down. You would think that they would respect the democracy that they so claim to love by acknowledging the result of last year's exercise in democracy. Evidently, democracy only works properly if they get their own way. But I digress.
 
Quote from Gabfly1:

... Evidently, democracy only works properly if they get their own way.
Reminds me of the dems after the 2000 and 2004 elections, how about you ThunderDawg of Canada?
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Reminds me of the dems after the 2000 and 2004 elections...
Not exactly. If memory serves, the Supreme Court essentially appointed Bush in 2000, and Kerry was "swiftboated" in 2004. By the time the truth came out, the damage to Kerry had already been done. No one on Obama's team had spread deliberate lies about the other side in the manner that Rove played the game for Bush. In both cases, there was a lack of fair play in Bush's two victories in one form or another, whereas there was no lack of fair play in Obama's victory. In fact, it was as clean an exercise in democracy as you had ever seen and will likely ever see in your lifetime.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Yeah, that's in contradiction to your position that antarctic ice is increasing -- their report is that antarctic ice might be decreasing at a slower rate than they originally thought. Notice that it's decreasing.

well what we know is that the top of the ice was expanding and I will wait and see what the meansurements show regarding the entire mass.

Again - I see no reason not to conserve. I just can't believe the b.s. solution is to pay reparations to the third world based on what? speculation about our contribution to warming?
 
Quote from jem:

well what we know is that the top of the ice was expanding and I will wait and see what the meansurements show regarding the entire mass.

The GRACE satellite measurements show the entire mass, and show it decreasing.
 
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