Russian Hacking Questions

AAAintheBeltway said:
Apparently it is now treasonous to even think that. After all, the Washington Post has an anonymous CIA source who said so. Podesta was hacked by a ploy so sophisticated, it took the CIA months to uncover who was behind it. And the "typo" from the IT guy Podesta asked for advice? Pretty convenient that "illegitimate" got changed to "legitimate. " Obviously more Russian spycraft at work.

Putin stole the election by confusing democrats as to how many votes they needed to steal. Just like in our great pastime of football, when there is an infraction, you assess the penalty and run the down over again. So it's obvious we need to redo the election, only this time no funny business about how many votes they need.
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The Podesta "hack" is well documented in the network security community. Any network security expert who looks through the available details will know that it was not Russia.

Now the hack of the Democratic party servers is not documented in detail. It may (or may not) be a state player (like Russia). More details would need to be made available to the network security community to arrive at any type of conclusion.
 
While everyone argues about this, only one thing matters:

How many Ricters amongst the Electors can be rolled over by this CIA propaganda, coordinated by Nancy Pelosi's daughter?

She only needs 38 Electors who think like Ricter and futurecurrents to flip on Dec 19. Word is she has 30 so far.

All of the histrionic ranting, including Olberman's over-the-top rant, is for one purpose only: to give all the Ricters amongst the electorate the excuse they need to provide cover to steal (not seal) the election on Dec. 19.

After all, isn't that what the CIA does, routinely, to influence elections? And now, with its permission to run propaganda campaigns in the U.S., why is this coup surprising?

Apparently, 85% of Electors are Democratic, and 28 states allow them to vote any way they wish .

Don't think they can't find 38 to blackmail, bribe, or bamboozle with propaganda?

Yes, the CIA is going to "brief" any Elector who wants to be bamboozled...Electors who think like Ricter and futercurrents.
 
Don't you entirely miss the point? It does not matter who hacked the DNC and Podesta email accounts. What matters is that such individual or organization exclusively focused their efforts on Democrats but not Republicans. The problem is not about the shit that was unearthed (I am all for disclosure and more information than less) but it is established fact that the leaks were only sought from the Democrat side. That does not bother you or raise eyebrows? In this context it does not matter whether it was the Russians or little critters from Mars

Tsing Tao said:
That's what's so funny.

If someone could prove the Russians hacked Podesta's emails and released them, I could actually accept the statement that "The Russians influenced the election."

Then we could move on to the real funny stuff which is more about the content. If you tell the police about an illegal activity which you learned of illegally, they still arrest the people who committed the crime.
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Sure, so a few Republicans just have to come forward to state they equally were attempted to be baited by phishing attacks. This would totally debunk the allegations that such attempts (call it hacking or Phishing or whatever) were one-sided. Has that happened? If yes then i missed it. Some evidence would of course be very helpful to lend more credibility to such claims

AAAintheBeltway said:
That is pretty funny, but the fact it was so crude just totally destroys the
CIA" conclusion, doesn't it? They are acting like the Russians mounted this big league attack and the reality is, he fell for a simple phising scheme. Not to knock him, it can happen, but how does that become Russian intelligence? it could have been some Nigerians at the barbershop.

The DNC "hack" looks more like a large-scale Snowden-style leak by some insider who was sicked at what the saw. A guy who was in a position to do just that was mysteriously killed in DC soon thereafter. Maybe the CIA ought to have a look at that.
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... To what and whom were they then linked? If you claim they were not linked to Russia that obviously implies you know where they were linked to.

gwb-trading said:
Let's make one point clear up front. Podesta did not get hacked from a foreign government in some type of complex hacking scheme. Podesta got hacked from a simple fake "you need to change your password" phishing email. The origins of this email and associated servers were not linked to Russia in any manner.
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Dang! This guy's good.
 
Radical Russian Republican Terrorist
yeah, try that, it worked for them when they called them Radical Islamic Terrorist and we wouldn't
 
Zzzz1 said:
Don't you entirely miss the point? It does not matter who hacked the DNC and Podesta email accounts. What matters is that such individual or organization exclusively focused their efforts on Democrats but not Republicans. The problem is not about the shit that was unearthed (I am all for disclosure and more information than less) but it is established fact that the leaks were only sought from the Democrat side. That does not bother you or raise eyebrows? In this context it does not matter whether it was the Russians or little critters from Mars
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How do you know? Maybe they hacked the republicans and found nothing of real interest. All we can say is a lot of crap came out about the Democrats and the crap that came out was blatantly corrupt and disgusting. Apart from that, all we have is speculation.

I understand that you folks don't like the results of the election, and you'll cling to any shred of evidence that might throw the result into question. I get it. The folks on the right might do the same were the shoe on the other foot, and you folks on the left would be telling them to accept it.

Fact is, no one has proof, everyone has speculation, and the results won't be overturned. Let's just get on with our lives already.
 
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