Russian collapse coming?

GermanTrader · Sep 18, 2008

Quote from Landis82:

Some would suggest that the USA has "engineeered" a global financial meltdown to teach the Ruskies a very valuable "lesson".

I would not pretend to know who the movers are (other than the usual suspect rich families and clubs) but I do know that nothing happens in the world of big money that is not fully mapped out, ready for all responses and contingencies. Those in money are quite militant with it and do not allow it out of their control at any time. Why would anyone expect those ruling the world of power and money to be surprised at anything but an event from the masses (whom they consider yahoos in the hustings)?

They know exactly what they are doing. This is all a show for their entertainment, for our illusion, and finally for redistribution of wealth back to them, where they feel it belongs. Believe it or don't... doesn't cost me either way.

crgarcia · Sep 18, 2008

Quote from Landis82:

Ouch!
You can sure say THAT again!!!

Some would suggest that the USA has "engineeered" a global financial meltdown to teach the Ruskies a very valuable "lesson".

Kind of like attacking the Soviets, without using any planes, missiles, or tanks.

Who says that?
Southamerica?

Russians fell by themselves, all the money they received from oil and what they got? nothing?

Pretty much like Venezuela, Iran, Iraq; pretty much like must guys who win the lottery, they end up worse in the long run.

dalengo · Sep 19, 2008

Quote from GermanTrader:

You need to travel and stop your childish and gullible practice of believing the news. Go to Russia, like I did (I recommend Aeroflot unless you're a fat pig, in which case you'll have to take a Western carrier), and ask the old people there what really happened under Stalin, and how they really feel about the West. Contrast that with what their younger generation says about the West.[/i]

Good advice. Whereever in Europe (UK, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, ...), people were telling me that out of all the peoples they most adore the Germans, esp. the Dutch.

Over a beer with an English friend in Cambridge, he noted that something should be wrong with the nation that started two World Wars. It always fascinates me watching newsreel of nazi rallies with elated German girls greeting their Fuhrer. Perhaps, you need one of those girls to quiet your rage? Oh, maybe you met a cute Russian girl you told you what she really thinks about guys like yourself?

Russians beat the German supermen into the ground, and one may only wonder why they did not apply to you your own invention, die EndlÃ¶sung?
Happy trading!

bl33p · Sep 19, 2008

Quote from GermanTrader:

The West did not put Stalin into power, after which he killed more of his own people than Hitler and Pol Pot combined times 10.

Well the west did their everything to keep him in power in WW2 and thus beyond.

A_B · Sep 19, 2008

Russian indexes today:

RTS +20%
MICEX +25%

Is it collapse? ))

Ivanovich · Sep 19, 2008

Quote from A_B:

Russian indexes today:

RTS +20%
MICEX +25%

Is it collapse? ))

Not yet, I think the SEC saved Russia as well. Not Medvedev.

But the end game may not be played out yet.

Mecro · Sep 19, 2008

Quote from vv111y:

A Russian lady I know told me that Moscow is considered 'like another country' by the rest of Russia. It truly stands out. Not a lot of love there apparently.

Ever compare New York, San Francisco & LA to the rest of USA?

Moscow has gotten a lot worse over the last year, that's for sure. And that in turn releases a lot of bad energy.

BoyBrutus · Sep 19, 2008

Russia Seeks Positive Ties, End To Confrontation With US-Govt
Last update: 9/19/2008 11:42:56 AM
MOSCOW (AFP)--Russia doesn't want further confrontation and will pursue "positive" relations with the U.S. and other countries, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement Friday.
"Russia is determined not to succumb to rhetoric and be drawn into confrontation...We will continue to promote a positive, unifying agenda in our relations with the U.S. and other partners," the statement said.
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Ivanovich · Sep 19, 2008

Quote from Mecro:

Ever compare New York, San Francisco & LA to the rest of USA?

Moscow has gotten a lot worse over the last year, that's for sure. And that in turn releases a lot of bad energy.

Excellent points. Same thing, for sure.

Moscow has gotten progressively worse the last 5 years or so in my opinion.

Cesko · Sep 19, 2008

Quote from BoyBrutus:

Russia Seeks Positive Ties, End To Confrontation With US-Govt
Last update: 9/19/2008 11:42:56 AM
MOSCOW (AFP)--Russia doesn't want further confrontation and will pursue "positive" relations with the U.S. and other countries, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement Friday.
"Russia is determined not to succumb to rhetoric and be drawn into confrontation...We will continue to promote a positive, unifying agenda in our relations with the U.S. and other partners," the statement said.
Click here to go to Dow Jones NewsPlus, a web front page of today's most important business and market news, analysis and commentary: http://www.djnewsplus.com/al?rnd=Tuf6jlTSR9asUD3iYofXbg==. You can use this link on the day this article is published and the following day.
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September 19, 2008 11:42 ET (15:42 GMT)

Maybe a bitch-slapping worked but I don't trust those motherfuckers anyway.