Russia & Ukraine

gwb-trading said:
Just Russia looting more grain.

Russia reroutes smuggled Ukrainian grain exports - NRC
https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia...d-ukraine-to-iran-via-new-route-50445233.html
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You realize grain belongs not to Ukraine but to businesses which produce it and people actually have jobs and survive producing those grains.
Ukraine could make money transfers to those people instead which it considers its own citizens.
Never heard about it. Instead some strange talk like something is stolen
I guess Ukraine wants its own people die
 
kashirin said:
You realize grain belongs not to Ukraine but to businesses which produce it and people actually have jobs and survive producing those grains.
Ukraine could make money transfers to those people instead which it considers its own citizens.
Never heard about it. Instead some strange talk like something is stolen
I guess Ukraine wants its own people die
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The Russian thugs expropriated the farms from the actual Ukrainian owners who have been chased off their land -- and allowed corporations owned by Russian oligarchs to take over the farms and export grain. Basically it is straight-up theft -- something Russians are known for.
 
gwb-trading said:
The Russian thugs expropriated the farms from the actual Ukrainian owners who have been chased off their land -- and allowed corporations owned by Russian oligarchs to take over the farms and export grain. Basically it is straight-up theft -- something Russians are known for.
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nobody expropriated farms. And the article you posted proved it
Russia authorities just help businesses which produced grains in Ukraine and continue to produce it now to sell it so their families and families of their employees would have food on the table for their children
this is exactly what';s they duty is - to take care about ordinary people on occupied territories

In the same time Ukraine just decided to pretend it's not their people and spills propaganda about some theft. Looks like they would prefer their own people to starve

I have no wonder you would prefer ukrainians die so you master would pay you on time for your filthy propaganda
 
kashirin said:
nobody expropriated farms. And the article you posted proved it
Russia authorities just help businesses which produced grains in Ukraine and continue to produce it now to sell it so their families and families of their employees would have food on the table for their children
this is exactly what';s they duty is - to take care about ordinary people on occupied territories

In the same time Ukraine just decided to pretend it's not their people and spills propaganda about some theft. Looks like they would prefer their own people to starve

I have no wonder you would prefer ukrainians die so you master would pay you on time for your filthy propaganda
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Quite the fantasy you spin there. Russia has been stealing Ukrainian grain for quite a while.

2022 Russian theft of Ukrainian grain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_theft_of_Ukrainian_grain

Russia sets world record due to stolen Ukrainian grain
https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/russia-sets-world-record-due-to-stolen-ukrainian-grain/

Russia smuggling Ukrainian grain to help pay for Putin’s war
https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...ebanon-syria-87c3b6fea3f4c326003123b21aa78099

Tracking where Russia is taking Ukraine's stolen grain
https://www.bbc.com/news/61790625

Russian Theft of Ukrainian Grain Likely a War Crime, Legal Analysis Says
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023...likely-a-war-crime-legal-analysis-says-a83147

Russia Seeks Buyers for Plundered Ukraine Grain, U.S. Warns
American diplomats have alerted 14 countries, most in Africa, that Russian ships filled with stolen Ukrainian grain could be headed their way, posing a dilemma to countries facing dire food shortages.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/world/africa/ukraine-grain-russia-sales.html

‘Forged documents’: how Ukrainian grain may be enriching Putin’s circle
Bumper harvest celebrated in Russia can be explained by ‘looting’ of occupied territory, say prosecutors
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...krainian-grain-may-be-enriching-putins-circle

How Russsain Ships are Laundering Grain Stolen From Ukraine
Russia Stole, Sold Grains From Ukraine as Seen in Satellite Images and Ship Data
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-russian-stolen-grains/

Video Investigation: Russia Is Using a Secret Network to Steal Ukraine Grain
While the war in Ukraine has upended the global supply of grain, a WSJ investigation in 2022 revealed how Russia has quietly institutionalized the theft of hundreds of thousands of metric tons of it out of newly occupied areas of Ukraine and into Russian-allied countries in the Middle East.
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/in...ne-grain/9FFE6B21-2DDA-450F-9E46-1C86D4806B2F

Ships Linked to Russia’s Biggest Grain Exporter Moved Stolen Ukrainian Cargo
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ships-...rter-moved-stolen-ukrainian-cargo-11669890602

Investigation Reveals Russian Firms Are Exporting Stolen Ukrainian Grain
https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/In...rms-Are-Exporting-Stolen-Ukrainian-Grain.html
 
gwb-trading said:
Quite the fantasy you spin there. Russia has been stealing Ukrainian grain for quite a while.

2022 Russian theft of Ukrainian grain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_theft_of_Ukrainian_grain

Russia sets world record due to stolen Ukrainian grain
https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/russia-sets-world-record-due-to-stolen-ukrainian-grain/

Russia smuggling Ukrainian grain to help pay for Putin’s war
https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...ebanon-syria-87c3b6fea3f4c326003123b21aa78099

Tracking where Russia is taking Ukraine's stolen grain
https://www.bbc.com/news/61790625

Russian Theft of Ukrainian Grain Likely a War Crime, Legal Analysis Says
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023...likely-a-war-crime-legal-analysis-says-a83147

Russia Seeks Buyers for Plundered Ukraine Grain, U.S. Warns
American diplomats have alerted 14 countries, most in Africa, that Russian ships filled with stolen Ukrainian grain could be headed their way, posing a dilemma to countries facing dire food shortages.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/world/africa/ukraine-grain-russia-sales.html

‘Forged documents’: how Ukrainian grain may be enriching Putin’s circle
Bumper harvest celebrated in Russia can be explained by ‘looting’ of occupied territory, say prosecutors
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...krainian-grain-may-be-enriching-putins-circle

How Russsain Ships are Laundering Grain Stolen From Ukraine
Russia Stole, Sold Grains From Ukraine as Seen in Satellite Images and Ship Data
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-russian-stolen-grains/

Video Investigation: Russia Is Using a Secret Network to Steal Ukraine Grain
While the war in Ukraine has upended the global supply of grain, a WSJ investigation in 2022 revealed how Russia has quietly institutionalized the theft of hundreds of thousands of metric tons of it out of newly occupied areas of Ukraine and into Russian-allied countries in the Middle East.
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/in...ne-grain/9FFE6B21-2DDA-450F-9E46-1C86D4806B2F

Ships Linked to Russia’s Biggest Grain Exporter Moved Stolen Ukrainian Cargo
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ships-...rter-moved-stolen-ukrainian-cargo-11669890602

Investigation Reveals Russian Firms Are Exporting Stolen Ukrainian Grain
https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/In...rms-Are-Exporting-Stolen-Ukrainian-Grain.html
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What exactly stolen? do they send trucks during the night when Ukrainian police sleeps to ukrainian control territories and steal grain there and then sell?

so basically all links you post say Russian authorities help local farmers to sell their grain as those people are completely abandoned by ukrainian authorities and would die from starvation unless helped by russians. nothing else in your links

on the other side we all know how USA steals oil from Syria, where it has alligel military bases, and that's real theft not imaginary

Washington steals over 80 percent of Syria's oil output per day
The losses incurred by the trafficking campaign surpass $100bln, according to Syria's oil ministry


https://thecradle.co/articles-id/3195
 
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kashirin said:
What exactly stolen? do they send trucks during the night when Ukrainian police sleeps to ukrainian control territories and steal grain there and then sell?

so basically all links you post say Russian authorities help local farmers to sell their grain as those people are completely abandoned by ukrainian authorities and would die from starvation unless helped by russians. nothing else in your links

on the other side we all know how USA steals oil from Syria, where it has alligel military bases, and that's real theft not imaginary

Washington steals over 80 percent of Syria's oil output per day
The losses incurred by the trafficking campaign surpass $100bln, according to Syria's oil ministry


https://thecradle.co/articles-id/3195
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As outlined in the articles -- the Russians have expropriated the farms in Ukraine's occupied territories and given them to Putin's cronies. The original Ukrainian farm owners have been either murdered by the Russians or are now refugees in western Ukraine.

It's a wonder that you can peddle such bullshiat devoid of facts and reality. But then I remember that you're a Russian propagandist and that is your job.
 
kashirin said:
What exactly stolen? do they send trucks during the night when Ukrainian police sleeps to ukrainian control territories and steal grain there and then sell?

so basically all links you post say Russian authorities help local farmers to sell their grain as those people are completely abandoned by ukrainian authorities and would die from starvation unless helped by russians. nothing else in your links

on the other side we all know how USA steals oil from Syria, where it has alligel military bases, and that's real theft not imaginary

Washington steals over 80 percent of Syria's oil output per day
The losses incurred by the trafficking campaign surpass $100bln, according to Syria's oil ministry


https://thecradle.co/articles-id/3195
More...

gwb-trading said:
As outlined in the articles -- the Russians have expropriated the farms in Ukraine's occupied territories and given them to Putin's cronies. The original Ukrainian farm owners have been either murdered by the Russians or are now refugees in western Ukraine.

It's a wonder that you can peddle such bullshiat devoid of facts and reality. But then I remember that you're a Russian propagandist and that is your job.
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