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Atlantic said:
what do you think - how could putin be *removed*?

and how sick (physically) is he really?
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Russians have a big mouth but that's all. They are for decades terrorized by KGB an FSB. They don't even know what resistance or revolt is. The decades of terror destroyed their motivation. They are just like sheep, and the shepherd (Putin) decides were they will go and what they will do.
Before the mobilization the Russian people were not worrying. They continued to live their usual live. It was none of their business so Putin could do anything.

Russian people are just the opposite of Ukrainians. Ukrainians from all over the world came to Ukraine to defend their country. Russians try to run away to avoid the war. Russians has no real soldiers, just a bunch of poor idiots that need alcohol and cigarettes.

Conclusion: the population will NEVER be able to overthrow Putin.

Read what is happening in Iran right now. A girl was killed by police, result was massive protest. And today the protesters invaded weapon depots and are going to fight against their religious leaders. Something like that is impossible with Russians.

Watch the video and see what weapons they give to the new mobilized "soldiers". It is hilarious!
And these Russian idiots even believe they got a real gun!!! ROFLMAO
 

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Video: Ukrainian Government Adviser Claims Russia Has Taken Out Soviet-Era Tanks From Storage Amid War

Amid the ongoing war in Ukraine, a video showing multiple Soviet-era tanks lined up on railway tracks in Russia has surfaced online. Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Ukraine's minister of internal affairs, shared the clip on Twitter and claimed that Russia has taken out more of its 50-year-old T-62 tanks from storage in order to deploy them in the Ukraine war.

"Old Soviet tanks taken out of conservation by Russia - with no protection against modern weapons," Mr Gerashchenko wrote in the caption.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/vid...oviet-era-tanks-from-storage-amid-war-3373073
 
Atlantic said:
what do you think - how could putin be *removed*?

and how sick (physically) is he really?
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"Putin" can't be. The 20+ years of Putin's regime built a system of sycophants and guilt-tied and common-crime-tied associates around him that is impenetrable.

Another question is - who is "Putin". There is a deep belief in Russia that there are at least 4, maybe 6 "Putins". There may be a main one, but there is a set of doubles. So "Putin" may die (or, as some people think, already has died) but other "Putins" are still there.
 
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Another Russian: you think that these will "rise up" against Putin?

https://t.me/nexta_live/37386

translation: it's a post from a woman in Sevastopol, Crimea:

"I have a question, please don't criticize me. An acquaintance, male, former colleague is being mobilized in the next wave, he says he is going in October, as soon as he gets the next salary and leaves work.

I asked him to marry me quickly before he leaves and before he is formally drafted. I have two small children and I will be able to receive higher benefits and social payments. Their real father is not listed on their birth certificates. And in case he dies, the death payment (she says $100K but I doubt it is that much - terr) will come handy but he absolutely refuses. I am trying to explain to him that it doesn't hurt him, he is just helping me now or, in the end, I will be able to close my mortgage! Imagine how many men in Crimea could help single women with their mortgages and debts?? I am just thinking of the children. If you're leaving to defend motherland why not get married first? You will have someone to return to, someone will wait for you...

Please no insults and emotions, I am just writing about common sense and how a mature man should behave."
 

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terr said:
Another Russian: you think that these will "rise up" against Putin?

https://t.me/nexta_live/37386

translation: it's a post from a woman in Sevastopol, Crimea:

"I have a question, please don't criticize me. An acquaintance, male, former colleague is being mobilized in the next wave, he says he is going in October, as soon as he gets the next salary and leaves work.

I asked him to marry me quickly before he leaves and before he is formally drafted. I have two small children and I will be able to receive higher benefits and social payments. Their real father is not listed on their birth certificates. And in case he dies, the death payment (she says $100K but I doubt it is that much - terr) will come handy but he absolutely refuses. I am trying to explain to him that it doesn't hurt him, he is just helping me now or, in the end, I will be able to close my mortgage! Imagine how many men in Crimea could help single women with their mortgages and debts?? I am just thinking of the children. If you're leaving to defend motherland why not get married first? You will have someone to return to, someone will wait for you...

Please no insults and emotions, I am just writing about common sense and how a mature man should behave."
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Atlantic said:
what do you think - how could putin be *removed*?

and how sick (physically) is he really?
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The bad news is that Putin probably cannot be "removed" from Russia short to medium term anyway.

The good news is that there is a vast number of countries now where he can probably be "prevented." If left unimpeded he would have/will assembled a large number of eastern European (possibly western too), and central Asian countries under his rule. That part is not looking so good these days. As I have said before, Putin set out to be Peter the Great, and now he has descended to Ivan the Terrible - and he is well on his way to becoming the village idiot.

And of course Putin answers to China now, and China- while presenting its own set of problems- nevertheless is more interested in keeping its economy chugging than war- right now anyway- and will not allow Vlad to use nukes without going on their permanent shit list. And when they want him out, things happen. Putin is on a short leash with Xi and Xi is actively reducing him to a useful idiot.
 
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virtusa said:
Russians have a big mouth but that's all. They are for decades terrorized by KGB an FSB. They don't even know what resistance or revolt is. The decades of terror destroyed their motivation. They are just like sheep, and the shepherd (Putin) decides were they will go and what they will do.
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This is true, but completely irrelevant. Were you visualizing some some sort of a Monty Python jacquerie, with the peasants standing outside Putin's palace waving their torches and pitchforks? That's... not how power works in Russia. Or any tyranny.

It's a story as old as history: for any autocrat surrounded by weak yes-men, one (or more) of them is hatching plans behind a facade. And the weaker/more ineffective that group is, the more certain the coup - because there will be no one capable of resisting the new leader afterwards. Read up on historical assassinations; there's a number of examples.

(I'm sure P is quite aware of them, but there's no way to avoid it. The greater the degree of control from the top, the higher the selection pressure for scheming, poisonous, subtle bastards in the control group - and the more attractive the top spot. Historical inevitability, we call it.)

There's a right moment for coups to happen, too; it's when everyone - including the "peasants" - is maximally pissed off by some event and hating the guy in charge. Then, killing him (preferably in some gruesome, obvious fashion - sticking the head on a spike in the main square of the capital, that sort of thing) calms the population, assures support from everyone else in the political structure, and provides a highly plausible means of renegotiating status with the rest of the world ("See? We killed the Bad Guy, and everything that's been happening was his fault. No need for any more sanctions, right?")

It hadn't gotten quite bad enough up till this point, but this draft just might be the catalyst. If not - well, the situation Russia is in right now will provide more and worse ones, on an accelerating schedule. Guaranteed.
 
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