I don't buy it, sorry.
Russia & Ukraine
- Thread starter UsualName
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I don't buy it, sorry.
Ok, so tell me then why go through all the trouble if they could have just carpet-bombed the heck out of Ukraine?
You can't occupy country just by bombing it.
I didn't say I blame Ukrainians for fighting back, I appreciate that they have to, I said Ukrainians and others are using propaganda to support the narrative that Russians are 'sons of Satan', that is the bullshit part. Show me concentration camps, show me footage of Russian soldiers being involved in mass executions, interviews of women that were raped (who did it? it was Zelensky who released prisoners and armed them, I would have thought that they would be more likely to rape women than Russian soldiers), and where they murder children, as this is what they are being accused of. If you are an American, then your army did the same things, but was it genocide? It was just war and civilians die during wars. I saw footage of Germans executing civilians from to 1940s, this is the 21st century and we have way more advanced video capturing technology, so where is the footage of Russians actually doing it? We live in the era of information wars and showing images or video footage of dead people (who aren't always dead as was seen in some videos), does not constitute proof of genocide, who did it and how was it done? If you were accused of murdering someone and were to be tried in court, I am more than certain that your defence would demand proof, not to mention that someone who hates you could have framed you. You think that Ukrainians would not kill their own people? They could and they have, both accidentally and purposefully. Do you really believe that the Azov regiment and the released Ukrainian prisoners are a bunch of softies?
Yes I know. You are Russian, so what Russia tells it true and what the others say is fake.
Correct. That is why you carpet bomb first and then bring in ground troops. Russians did not do this. They are trying to show that they try to reduce civilian deaths as much as possible by not having done this, but you can't eliminate civilian deaths.
According to this logic, you are an American and the same applies to you, what USA tells it true and what the others say is fake.
Can you show me evidence about the 8 years genocide in Donbass area? I have never seen any proof of that. As that did not happen, Putin had no reason to start this war.
I can’t speak for Putin. I believe that primary reason that Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent them joining NATO, but just like the USA needed to have a solid reason to invade Iraq pinning it on Saddam having WMDs, same for Russia, they announced the reason and invaded.
Путинский уебок. Plenty of that, except you refuse to see it.