Russia & Ukraine

They had to use reserves and had the stop loss policy not allowing troops to leave after thier commitments was over for Iraq.


Right, they got it covered. No need for a draft because it is political suicide to even mention it. We have a volunteer military for a reason and reserves to back it up and allies who will be forced to step in. Will not be a WWIII or need for a draft but U.S. will have to shift assets.

Navy ships and air force assets plus 500 drones could do more damage than 10,000 ground troops of U.S. men and women dying for someone else's soil while politicans can claim they are dying for my freedom. Bullshit.....my freedom is not dependent on defending Ukraine from russia but we should stop invading scumbags withs upport.
 
As you stated -- enforcing a no-fly zone only in western Ukraine would be much more achievable. However the reality is that Western nations are taking no steps to position air-power in the region so effectively they do not have the assets in place (or even in gear) to enforce any type of no-fly zone.

You will find that aircraft and gear can be positioned quickly.

I now have friends heading there so I'm waiting for word on if there is anything for me to do. I don't speak the languages or have local knowledge but if they tell me I can be useful, I think the wife has adjusted to the idea a bit.

An odd thing just now, I picked up a copy of The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks and the first line reads "I haven’t killed anybody for years, and don’t intend to ever again. It was just a stage I was going through."
 
No one is going to launch a nuke

You don't know that.If The US is going to engage with the Russians we have to be willing to accept it.My guess is 99% of Americans aren't willing to have nukes rain down on US cities over The Ukraine.

Putin could be a fucking mad man willing to destroy everything if he doesn't get his way.
 
Right, they got it covered. No need for a draft because it is political suicide to even mention it. We have a volunteer military for a reason and reserves to back it up and allies who will be forced to step in. Will not be a WWIII or need for a draft but U.S. will have to shift assets.

Navy ships and air force assets plus 500 drones could do more damage than 10,000 ground troops of U.S. men and women dying for someone else's soil while politicans can claim they are dying for my freedom. Bullshit.....my freedom is not dependent on defending Ukraine from russia but we should stop invading scumbags withs upport.

No,they didn't have it covered which is why they prevented volunteer troops from leaving when thier time was up.And that was for Iraq.For WWIII they will need a lot more troops and will need a draft.
 
No,they didn't have it covered which is why they prevented volunteer troops from leaving.And that was for Iraq.For WWIII they will need a lot more troops and will need a draft.


There will not be WWIII IMHO..... wars are now fought from a distance with smaller land based troops and through economic and political sanctions. Putin will believe he made his point and withdraw and then try to undermine the government. I think he is still smart enough to know no one wins an all out war.
 
Navy ships and air force assets plus 500 drones could do more damage than 10,000 ground troops of U.S. men and women dying for someone else's soil while politicans can claim they are dying for my freedom. .


If Putin is getting his ass kicked like that he will use nukes.
 
One of the issues that will surface as the days go by is that the US not enforcing a no-fly zone also means that the U.S. is not saying that that it will not fly there, only that it will not prevent others. U.S. military will not be flying there to confront Ruskies. That probably will not change although is not guaranteed.

What will happen is that the Russian pigs will try to starve out the locals and the the resistance will need supplies. We know that Russian air power is there is some form but very spotty and unpredictable, yet the U.S. has intelligence and surveillance of the area. Sort of a long-winded lead up to saying that there will be supply flights going in hopefully flown by brave souls and with some guidance on there best routes and timing based on American or other intelligence. As I said, Americans may not enforce a no-fly soul, but the downside for the Ruskies is that does not mean we are saying we won't promote others flying in to the extent that we can. The resistance/Americans will be making most of this up as they go along. If the Russian pigs act like they have a air defense curtain over certain areas well that is a lot to mess with. But if they have gaps as the rest of their shit-bum rag tag operation seems to have, it will be Airlift Village.

As an aside, Crapistan Kharzarkstan/sp has refused Putin's request to send troops and support to Ukraine. Ain't nobody want to touch that hot potato now. Even Belaruse claiming they know nothing, maybe heard about Ukraine on the radio or something. :cool:

We are probably already doing drops of weapons with unmanned aircraft. I don’t know if we can drop enough food for an entire city that way though. Where there’s a will there’s a way.
 
The U.S. military is so large they will never need to do a draft again..not to mention a lot of war is foought by 1/3 the force sitting on ships firing missles or managing drones from Nevada.

This is what is meant by force “tooth to tail.” Putin has or I should say had 170k soldier before he sent them into the Ukrainian meat grinder but of those only about 70k were were actually fighting at any given time. Add to that they are eating MREs from 7 years ago and running out of fuel and sleeping in the mud and that force doesn’t look so tough anymore.

The force coming in from Belarus should be more fighting ready but the stories that must be circulating through the ranks now have to be wearing on the whole force too.
 
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