Russia & Ukraine

Okay fine I guess. Classy or not?

Let the viewers decide.


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Does Ukraine Stamp Design Commemorate ‘Russian Warship, Go F*ck Yourself’ Moment?


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ukraine-stamp-russian/


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The United States warns that Vladimir Putin may threaten to use nuclear weapons if the invasion of Ukraine is prolonged

The bogged down in the conflict and the inability to produce modern weapons in a short time would lead the Kremlin to make this decision.

March 17, 2022
According to a new assessment by the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, President Vladimir Putin is expected to threaten to use nuclear weapons against the West if Ukraine's tough resistance to the Russian invasion continues, depleting conventional human resources and equipment.

“The prolonged occupation of parts of Ukrainian territory threatens to diminish Russian military labor and reduce its modernized arsenal of weapons, while the ensuing economic sanctions are likely to throw Russia into a prolonged economic depression and diplomatic isolation,” said Lt. Gen. Scott Berrier, director of the Defence Intelligence Agency, in his new 67-page summary on global threats.

The combination of the Ukrainian challenge and economic sanctions will threaten Russia's “ability to produce modern precision guided munitions,” Berrier said in testimony before the House Armed Services Commission for a hearing on Thursday.

“As this war and its aftermath slowly weaken the conventional Russian force,” Berrier added, “Russia will likely increasingly depend on its nuclear deterrence to signal the West and project strength to its internal and external audiences.”

The Pentagon agency's grim assessment of what is at stake in the war comes on the eve of a call between President Joe Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping. While US officials strive to discern China's position on the war, Biden will seek Xi's help to increase pressure on Moscow to end it.



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File photo of US Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lieutenant General Scott Berrier (REUTERS)


Putin has already announced that he has put the Russian nuclear arsenal on high alert. The Russian embassy in Washington did not immediately return a request for comment on the Defense Intelligence Agency report.

Unlike a global threat report issued by multiple intelligence agencies last week with findings prior to the Russian invasion, the new report reflects information as of Tuesday.

A senior Pentagon official told reporters on Thursday that the invasion is largely stalled, and that Russia has so far resorted to more than 1,000 long-range missile attacks against Ukraine.

“America's efforts to undermine Russia's objectives in Ukraine, combined with its perception that the United States is a nation in decline, could incite Russia to take more aggressive action not only in Ukraine itself, but also more broadly in its perceived confrontation with the West,” Berrier said.

A key motivation for the invasion, he said, is Russia's determination to “restore a sphere of influence over Ukraine and the other states of the former Soviet Union.”

He added that “despite greater than expected resistance from Ukraine and relatively high losses in the early stages of the conflict, Moscow seems determined to continue using more lethal capabilities until the Ukrainian government is willing to reach favorable terms for Moscow.”
 
.... $50MM to the cause or 00.0034% of your GDP.
The US has given .011% of our GDP if you include what Trump gave to them.
Over three times as much as a percentage of GDP!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

So... load up a few dozen Air Koala 747's freighters with some of that firepower you Aussies have "sitting around gathering dust" and put your money where your mouth is Roo. :cool:
You guys are rich, we're just poor cousins... :)
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Republican Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Thomas Massie of Kentucky. All voted against the Russia trade bill.


Same fucktards... Dems have the Squad and Gop has this collection of shit.
 
My memory isn't great these days, but I believe I read comments of his on the internet. Perhaps it was in one of the British papers where he first mentioned he would donate proceeds from the sale of his football club to ongoing humanitarian efforts in Ukraine. I'll look in the Guardian.

I guess it was this: "The situation in Ukraine is horrific and devastating. Chelsea FC’s thoughts are with everyone in Ukraine. Everyone at the club is praying for peace." But this is a club statement issued I think while Abramovich was still in charge of the club, and it does not bear Abramovitch's signature. On second thought, I don't think I have seen any examples of where one of these Oligarchs has come right out and condemned Putin for his unprovoked War on Ukraine. I imagine they are all a little afraid of being served a polonium cocktail.

I think you are right , and I am wrong.


All of their wealth is still tied to Russia and Putin...they dare not speak up against their Don...that is why i dont feel sorry for them... time to pay the piper for who you show loyalty to. Roman said the situation is bad....what situation...Ukrainians defying Russian attempts to unify its country? Roman avoided saying anything...
 
There are both sides to the argument. The problem with Joe's comment is the way he handled it. Labeling Putin as a war criminal is a strong card to play and direct shot at him with implications. That does not make it right or wrong but - as usual with Joe- it was like he was cleaning his gun and it went off. First he answered no, then suprise, surprise, he did a 180 and answered yes, as if he didnt understand the question or gave it more thought after he walked away. Too big a card to play in public while acting like you are just beginning to think about it. maybe no, maybe yes type of thing.

Hypothetical example: Joe would you nuke Putin if he uses chemical weapons? No. Oh wait, yes.

Does not have a good look or show command presence in a time of war.

Well the administration is doubling down on it with Blinken saying Putin has committed war crimes or something to that effect.
 
Well the administration is doubling down on it with Blinken saying Putin has committed war crimes or something to that effect.

And I am okay with that because of my longer term wish that Russia not be returned to pre-war status even if a settlement is reached so it is important to help the world to understand that he is a war criminal and the genie cannot be put back in the bottle.

BUT.............and this is a bit too nuanced for some.....I said words to the effect that I thought Biden saying it the way he did was dangerous and goofy. I have thought through why I think it is necessary and what the strategy should be. Does not make it right- could easily be wrong- just saying I have given it thought and where I want to go with it. But Joe just pulled it out his arse, acted like he got caught off guard and then did a 180. Don't get into the shiite unless you know where you are headed or what you want out of it. It is dangerous talk to look confused and change your position just because someone kicked you and said "Ahh, Joe, do you realize what you just said."
 
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