Russia & Ukraine

One can be skeptical, yet also wanting and letting the system of checks and balances play out as it was designed to do.

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You know what's funny, I hold the same opinion as you do on domestic judicial matters precisely for that reason. I didn't bat an eye when the justice department made statements about the Russian investigation without presenting proof prematurely because there is judicial review. An investigator makes shit up or steps out of line, he may face a judge.

What you're missing is no one holds the federal government accountable in foreign matters. There is no checks and balance at that level except for the people, and shocker, the press. We laugh at international tribunals and "chastisement" by UN observers. We ignore their inspectors and go in guns blazing anyway.
 
There is no checks and balance at that level except for the people, and shocker, the press.
I'm going to casually look into this.
We laugh at international tribunals and "chastisement" by UN observers. We ignore their inspectors and go in guns blazing anyway.
Any cites to where this has most recently happened?
 
All to be expected. But what is missing for me in that discussion is what role will Russia's longer range missiles play in this scenario if it goes balls to the wall??? There seems to be some kind of presumed understanding that Russia will just fight a retro WW2 kind of ground war so the emphasis is on calculating troops and tanks and then concluding that all of the Ukraine would be too big of an ordeal to bite off. That may be, but I personally don't know that. I assume that if Russia wanted to go scorched earth they would knock all of Kiev out with cyberattack and then unload missiles that definitely are advanced on the city. Not saying that will or want to, but I don;t where this business of assessing the conflict without assuming that longer range missiles will come into play comes from. Seems to be some implicit assumption that the heavy duty weaponry is banned or not up for consideration or something. Again, it may be, but I personally do not know that to be true.

It is clearer to me what it would look like if Russia threatened a NATO country with advanced missiles but less clear to me what the response would be if it is just a Nato ally but non-member country such as the Ukraine. I guess you just watch. But if so, then I will repeat again, that there is and should be more to this assessment than just sizing up how many tanks and troops are moving around. Russia may already have sufficient troops in place if they are planning on supplementing them with long range missiles. Ditto for air power. Russia has plenty of air power. Ukraine has an air force but it is mostly soviet leftover stuff with some western contributions but they have always cried that it is not adequate.

:rolleyes:

As I said, where is the discussion in the media/government on the longer range and more powerful missiles- including nukes-. I guess we are just getting around to it the hard way- see below -by having the ruskies start flashing their nukes around just to get our juices flowing. They control the narrative which you might argue is to be expected but not really- there are predictable things that should be -well predicted, and discussed. Unlike AFG.

There is a lot of sleepy reporting on this conflict. Another example, is the bit about the State Department/Intel reporting the alleged, intended false flag operations by the Ruskies which is fine to disclose but where;s the sharing of the intel that it is based on? We have been led down the primrose path by false intel by defense/intel before, eh? MORE REPORTING/LESS BOOTLICKING PLEASE.


US believes Russia plans nuclear exercise to warn west over Ukraine
Military officials have briefed lawmakers that Putin intends to stage the drill as a show of force

https://www.ft.com/content/a2e0340c-fe7b-4d89-aea5-e07ff84b20fb
 
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As I said, where is the discussion in the media/government on the longer range and more powerful missiles- including nukes-. I guess we are just getting around to it the hard way -by having the ruskies start flashing their nukes around just to get our juices flowing. They control the narrative.

There is a lot of sleepy reporting on this conflict. Another example, is the bit about the State Department/Intel reporting the alleged, intended false flag operations by the Ruskies which is fine to disclose but where;s the sharing of the intel that it is based on? We have been led down the primrose path by false intel by defense/intel before, eh? MORE REPORTING/LESS BOOTLICKING PLEASE.


US believes Russia plans nuclear exercise to warn west over Ukraine
Military officials have briefed lawmakers that Putin intends to stage the drill as a show of force

https://www.ft.com/content/a2e0340c-fe7b-4d89-aea5-e07ff84b20fb

Meanwhile, as the Brits worry about Partygate and we worry about Nflgate (and a dozen other things that don't matter), pipes lay rusting on the ground in the Permian, WTI hits $92/bbl... Vlad gets to fill keep his coffers full with this heretofore unexpected financial windfall. Go green!!!! :rolleyes:
 
Thank you Gen. Milley for giving Russia an update and letting them know that things are looking good for them and Kiev is ready. You are displaying the same communications skills and bonding that you developed with the Taliban. Don't forget to give your Chinese masters an update too in regard to Taiwan.

Idiot.


Gen. Milley says Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if Russia decides to invade Ukraine: sources
Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine occurs
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-mill...s-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources


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Yeah, again, he spoke horribly, and so did the reporter.

Hard to lie about giving you something that I never gave you, when all you have to do is ask for another copy. I suspect this is merely a failure to communicate, as I've described previously.

Whether so or not, I don't see enough to conclude he was lying, versus bumbling and misspeaking. Too soon to tell.

A distinction without a difference. He wasn't going to reveal the sources, whether he communicated that properly or not; whether the reporter asked specifically or not.

Much ado about nothing, imo.


Again, questions are fine. Intelligence spokespersons should know what can, and can't be revealed.

I don't condone these sorts of shenanigans. Again, we can't currently conclude this is what was happening in this case. Again, all the reporter had to do was ask to be given another copy, and then perhaps they would have discovered they had a failure to communicate.

Either release the information because it's safe to do so; or not--because it's not safe to do so. Doing this, and only this, over time, should foster trust with the anti-secrets folks. That's all you can do, going forward.

But you don't release sensitive information prematurely to appease armchair intelligence pundits.
just a follow up, Sam's is probably a take we both agree on:

 
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I wrote about this over a month ago when this simple little fact had not crossed anyone's minds. Except maybe Putin and his generals. I even wrote it in bold and blue, with a website to check. :sneaky:


- General VZ
Around 19th of February keep an eye on the markets and options in the index before closing regular trading hours.
This is the anniversay day Supreme Soviet gave Crimea to Ukrainian Soviet Republic.
Interesting fact the Olympics will have closing ceremony next day 20th of February

Those crazies from Azov battalion will try to pull false flag and drag Russia to defend Donbass.Russia doesn't need to invade,they can destroy them from territory of Russian Federation

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Around 19th of February keep an eye on the markets and options in the index before closing regular trading hours.
This is the anniversay day Supreme Soviet gave Crimea to Ukrainian Soviet Republic.
Interesting fact the Olympics will have closing ceremony next day 20th of February

Those crazies from Azov battalion will try to pull false flag and drag Russia to defend Donbass.Russia doesn't need to invade,they can destroy them from territory of Russian Federation

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Wow.
Thanks for that. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Hmph.
 
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