Russia & Ukraine
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LOL, where is the video of any people being actually being taken.
BS/Propaganda/Fake news.
Post real videos, like i do, Forced Ukranian conscription videos are every where:
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Your claims are laughable considering how many previous Russian conscript videos can be found in this thread... and the reality that it is easy to perform a simple search and find endless Russian videos of conscripts being chased down or violently dragged away. Plus all the violent treatment within the Russian army after the conscripts are taken away.
Video: No escape from Putin's conscript catchers: Russian is chased through the streets as he tries to avoid call-up to Ukraine… but is grabbed by officers who will now send him to the front line
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/n...natchers-catch-fleeing-man-St-Petersburg.html
Here is the reality in Russia...
Russia is grabbing men off the street to fight in Ukraine
Police and military officers swooped down on a Moscow business center this past week unannounced. They were looking for men to fight in Ukraine — and they seized nearly every one they saw. Some musicians, rehearsing. A courier there to deliver a parcel. A man from a Moscow service agency, very drunk, in his mid-50s, with a walking disability.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/10/16/russia-mobilization-men/
Putin's Army Abducts Men From Streets, Offices And Homeless Shelters: 'They Sent Us, Like Meat'
https://www.benzinga.com/government...treets-offices-and-homeless-shelters-report-2
Russia targeting civilian areas to forcibly enlist men into Ukraine war
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/16/russia-ukraine-war-draft-mobilization-civilians
Hunting for conscripts: Russian draft officials lie in wait to catch their prey
Videos and photos posted on social media show police and draft officials at the entrances to subways and residential buildings acting like hunters in a safari.
https://central.asia-news.com/en_GB/articles/cnmi_ca/features/2022/10/24/feature-01
New Year’s nightmare
St. Petersburg police rounded up thousands of Central Asian migrants on New Year’s Eve and pressured them into signing military contracts
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/01/08/new-years-nightmare-en
Of course, most of the Ukraine videos you are posting are merely pushing false claims. But you already knew that -- because it is how Russian propaganda operates.
Video falsely claims to show forced enrollment efforts by Ukrainian army • FRANCE 24 English
Draft dodgers, bribes and demobilization edit
Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, around 650,000 military-aged men have fled the country through bribes, fake medical records or illegal crossings.[51] The crossings take place in the Carpathian mountains, on the border with Romania. According to Ukrainian authorities around 20,000 people were caught trying to cross the border illegally since February 2022 and another 20,000 successful crossings according to a BBC Eye Investigation.[52]
In the first months of the war, there were many volunteers to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including volunteers from around the world.[53] The expectations were high, a quick end to the war, with the restoration of Ukrainian 1991 borders. As the conflict dragged on, the population began to grow weary and the losses became visible. Many who went to fight from abroad, quickly realized the WW1-esque nature of the conflict and the number of foreign nationals decreased sharply.[54][55]
Of those that stayed in Ukraine and didn't volunteer, there was a tendency to pay bribes to the conscription officers, usually $5,000 to $10,000, to avoid being mobilized.[56] There is an extensive bribe culture in Ukraine.[57] During the second year of the invasion, and especially after the 2023 Ukrainian Counteroffensive, there was a lack of new recruits.[58]
Conscription officers at a road block in Kyiv.
To counteract this, Ukrainian government began harsher methods of mobilization, such as road blocks, business raids, going house to house and pulling people from the streets. In the latter half of 2023, many videos surfaced online showing Ukrainian men violently dragged into vans and driven to the military recruiting center (ТЦК [uk]).[58][59][60]
It was reported by eyewitnesses Ukraine had a corrupt medical commission. Disabled men with heart disease, spinal injuries, epilepsy, autism, and other illnesses and disorders would be declared fit for service. And those with money would use bribes for a medical exemption. There are a growing number of legal battles in Ukraine related to cases of lawlessness in the recruitment of new conscripts.[60][61][62]
Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen are reported to be one of the oldest in the world, with an average age of 43 in November 2023, 10 years older than in March 2022.[63] Desertion, flight from the front lines and insubordination in Ukrainian Armed Forces has seen a steady growth in 2022 and 2023.[64][65]
The lack of resources for mobilization also affects rotation, with many conscripts having no rotation since the start of the war in 2022. There have been protests around Ukraine, primarily wives and relatives of the mobilized soldiers demanding demobilization and to see their loved ones again.[66][67]
On 23 April 2024, the Ukrainian foreign ministry announced that it would suspend consular services to overseas Ukrainian men who were eligible for military service, with the exception of those returning to Ukraine.[68]
On 24 April 2024, the Ukrainian government issued a decree banning the delivery of identification documents and passports to Ukrainian men of military age abroad.[69]
As of 26 April 2024, the Polish government has offered, and the Lithuania governments is considering, repatriating Ukrainian men living in their countries to Ukraine. So that they can be drafted into the Ukrainian military. It is a “rough estimate” that some 300-400,000 men alone are living in Poland.[70]
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Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, around 650,000 military-aged men have fled the country through bribes, fake medical records or illegal crossings.[51] The crossings take place in the Carpathian mountains, on the border with Romania. According to Ukrainian authorities around 20,000 people were caught trying to cross the border illegally since February 2022 and another 20,000 successful crossings according to a BBC Eye Investigation.[52]
In the first months of the war, there were many volunteers to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including volunteers from around the world.[53] The expectations were high, a quick end to the war, with the restoration of Ukrainian 1991 borders. As the conflict dragged on, the population began to grow weary and the losses became visible. Many who went to fight from abroad, quickly realized the WW1-esque nature of the conflict and the number of foreign nationals decreased sharply.[54][55]
Of those that stayed in Ukraine and didn't volunteer, there was a tendency to pay bribes to the conscription officers, usually $5,000 to $10,000, to avoid being mobilized.[56] There is an extensive bribe culture in Ukraine.[57] During the second year of the invasion, and especially after the 2023 Ukrainian Counteroffensive, there was a lack of new recruits.[58]
Conscription officers at a road block in Kyiv.
To counteract this, Ukrainian government began harsher methods of mobilization, such as road blocks, business raids, going house to house and pulling people from the streets. In the latter half of 2023, many videos surfaced online showing Ukrainian men violently dragged into vans and driven to the military recruiting center (ТЦК [uk]).[58][59][60]
It was reported by eyewitnesses Ukraine had a corrupt medical commission. Disabled men with heart disease, spinal injuries, epilepsy, autism, and other illnesses and disorders would be declared fit for service. And those with money would use bribes for a medical exemption. There are a growing number of legal battles in Ukraine related to cases of lawlessness in the recruitment of new conscripts.[60][61][62]
Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen are reported to be one of the oldest in the world, with an average age of 43 in November 2023, 10 years older than in March 2022.[63] Desertion, flight from the front lines and insubordination in Ukrainian Armed Forces has seen a steady growth in 2022 and 2023.[64][65]
The lack of resources for mobilization also affects rotation, with many conscripts having no rotation since the start of the war in 2022. There have been protests around Ukraine, primarily wives and relatives of the mobilized soldiers demanding demobilization and to see their loved ones again.[66][67]
On 23 April 2024, the Ukrainian foreign ministry announced that it would suspend consular services to overseas Ukrainian men who were eligible for military service, with the exception of those returning to Ukraine.[68]
On 24 April 2024, the Ukrainian government issued a decree banning the delivery of identification documents and passports to Ukrainian men of military age abroad.[69]
As of 26 April 2024, the Polish government has offered, and the Lithuania governments is considering, repatriating Ukrainian men living in their countries to Ukraine. So that they can be drafted into the Ukrainian military. It is a “rough estimate” that some 300-400,000 men alone are living in Poland.[70]
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One grainy long distance video of someone running without sound from 2022, is that the best you can do?
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Russian
Russia changed its constitution.
Now Ukraine is part Russia occupied by illegal thugs
And if Russia deploys nukes it won't be Ukraine. It will likely be GB or Poland or even less Likely estonia and USA won't do a thing because simultaneously China will liberate Taiwan, North Korea will liberate south Korea and Iran will liberate Palestine
lol. In your dreams paid shill
Kash, Kash, Kash...
Kashmire....
How many times do I have to tell you: One smart bomb to Vlad's vacuum tube factory and everything in your country that can "Slip the surly bonds of Earth" .... will be rotting on tarmac, sub, and silo alike. NVDA chips are useless when ChIP-chip have Western backdoors. Buy all you want.
Kasherin is partly right.
Russia, Iran, China, NKorea will probably all jump into the fray simultaneously.
Meanwhile Biden the zionist tool will do fuckall and Trump the Putin puppet will do fuckall.
The worst damage you can expect from these two tools is more 'trade embargos', which take years to effect and are easily circumvented.
As mentioned, I'm pretty sure Israel will be supplying Russia goods and services via the backdoor.
Wave a dollar note in front of a jews nose and he's your friend - so long as you keep waving the dollar note.