Russia & Ukraine

As winter approaches it is pretty clear that the entire situation is at a stalemate. Russia's three layer deep defensive plan has worked to blunt a Ukrainian offensive. Likewise all of Russia's attempts to effectively use human wave attacks to seize towns have been bloody fiascos. Russia's logistics are also under pressure from new long range munitions being used by Ukraine which can hit just about anywhere in the occupied territory -- including the Russian naval and air force bases.

Ukraine’s top general: War with Russia has reached stalemate
‘There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,’ says Valery Zaluzhny.
https://www.politico.eu/article/valery-zaluzhny-ukraine-top-general-war-russia-reach-stalemate/
 
gwb-trading said:
As winter approaches it is pretty clear that the entire situation is at a stalemate. Russia's three layer deep defensive plan has worked to blunt a Ukrainian offensive. Likewise all of Russia's attempts to effectively use human wave attacks to seize towns have been bloody fiascos. Russia's logistics are also under pressure from new long range munitions being used by Ukraine which can hit just about anywhere in the occupied territory -- including the Russian naval and air force bases.

Ukraine’s top general: War with Russia has reached stalemate
‘There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,’ says Valery Zaluzhny.
https://www.politico.eu/article/valery-zaluzhny-ukraine-top-general-war-russia-reach-stalemate/
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How so?
Terr just told us Ukrainians kill millions of Russians. And Russians don't even shoot.

I'm sure Ukrainian top general has couple of billions in Swiss bank stolen from US aid so coming collapse won't significantly change his well-being after he evacuates from Ukraine.
Yes we can call it a stalemate in his life. Guaranteed increase in bank account coming to an end
 
kashirin said:
so when will ukraine win?
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Ukraine is already winning.The longer it goes on the more dead Russians and the weaker Russia's military and economy will be when its over.When its over Russias economy and military will be decimated for decades,hundreds of thousands of their men dead,the sanctions will remain making Russia continue to sell its oil at huge discounts making it much harder to rebuild their military and economy while The US will rebuild Ukraine and have Sweden as a member of NATO as well as Ukraine and Finland as not only NATO members but NATO members on Russias border LOL!!!
 
Tony Stark said:
Ukraine is already winning.The longer it goes on the more dead Russians and the weaker Russia's military and economy will be when its over.When its over Russias economy and military will be decimated for decades,hundreds of thousands of their men dead,the sanctions will remain making Russia continue to sell its oil at huge discounts making it much harder to rebuild their military and economy while The US will rebuild Ukraine and have Sweden as a member of NATO as well as Ukraine and Finland as not only NATO members but NATO members on Russias border LOL!!!
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Yeah, sure they winning
Hundreds of thousands Ukrainian men are dead and country on the verge of collapse but Finland in NATO
And USA of course will rebuild what will remain of Ukraine like they previously rebuilt Afghanistan and lybia
Definitely looks like a win.
 
kashirin said:
Yeah, sure they winning
Hundreds of thousands Ukrainian men are dead and country on the verge of collapse but Finland in NATO
And USA of course will rebuild what will remain of Ukraine like they previously rebuilt Afghanistan and lybia
Definitely looks like a win.
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1.More Russians are dead than Ukrainians.More Russians wounded as well.

2.Finland,Sweden and Ukraine will be in NATO when its over.

3.Ukraine is not on the verge of collapse.

4.Afghanistan was in good shape with a functioning military,police,economy,law and order etc.Even though they let the Taliban take it over it still is in good shape.Iraq was left in good shape as well and still is.

5.The US has no responsibility to Libya. Libya is not like Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
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kashirin said:
Yeah, sure they winning
Hundreds of thousands Ukrainian men are dead
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