Russia & Ukraine

Master Pu said:
Zelensky promised peace and brought war upon his own people, because he knew damn well what would be the consequences of his actions. Half of Ukraine pretty much consider themselves ethnic Russians, Ukrainian citizenship, yet consider themselves Russians by nationality. I don’t approve what has happened, yet I will not degrade to the ignorance levels evidenced here, to suggest Ukrainian government had nothing to do with this.
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Ordinarily I'd say that whatever they're paying you to make up stories is not enough....though in your case it seems about right.
 
Why have you all convinced yourselves that people who do not share your POV on Ukraine, are being paid by Kremlin? Can you not comprehend how stupid this sounds? So if you do not support transgender and express your feelings/thoughts online, is this because you are being paid by the GOP??? You lot are mental and crazy stupid haha
 
Master Pu said:
Why have you all convinced yourselves that people who do not share your POV on Ukraine, are being paid by Kremlin? Can you not comprehend how stupid this sounds? So if you do not support transgender and express your feelings/thoughts online, is this because you are being paid by the GOP??? You lot are mental and crazy stupid haha
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Says the guy defending an invasion of a free country because they weren't subservient enough to the neighboring dictator.
 
exGOPer said:
Says the guy defending an invasion of a free country because they weren't subservient enough to the neighboring dictator.
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Defending and interpreting situation are two different things. The problem is that people like yourself only see black and white, don’t think outside the box. You don’t want to understand that your country, assuming you’re American, had much to do with what’s happened and like some of your own analysts said already, this situation suits the US on many angles. They are in the minority of course, but same applied prior to the banking crisis, during C19 pandemic, power of MSM, both in Russia and the US are aimed at the majority pf people, people who need constant guidance and with application of constant one way reporting can be manipulated.
 
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Putin would have been more successful restarting the USSR had he not tried to intimidate nations with his literal poison abroad and so many falling out of windows. The western world went from being content to see him bring order to Russia and accepting that democracy didn't suit Russians to contempt.

Trump ordering the extrajudicial execution of Richael Reinoehl was going to become a problem since he was going to continue making examples, the pandemic and losing saved him in a way.

Peope are comfortable with certain hipocrisies and not others.
 
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exGOPer said:
Just act subservient to the great dictator and everything would have been all right.
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Master Pu said:
Defending and interpreting situation are two different things. The problem is that people like yourself only see black and white, don’t think outside the box. You don’t want to understand that your country, assuming you’re American, had much to do with what’s happened and like some of your own analysts said already, this situation suits the US on many angles. They are in the minority of course, but same applied prior to the banking crisis, during C19 pandemic, power of MSM, both in Russia and the US are aimed at the majority pf people, people who need constant guidance and with application of constant one way reporting can be manipulated.
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Master Pu said:
Defending and interpreting situation are two different things. The problem is that people like yourself only see black and white, don’t think outside the box. You don’t want to understand that your country, assuming you’re American, had much to do with what’s happened and like some of your own analysts said already, this situation suits the US on many angles. They are in the minority of course, but same applied prior to the banking crisis, during C19 pandemic, power of MSM, both in Russia and the US are aimed at the majority pf people, people who need constant guidance and with application of constant one way reporting can be manipulated.
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But your grey thinking completely ignores Russia's role in invading another country, you are so focused on blaming this on US that you can't even bring yourself to blame Russia for the failed invasion. You sound just like the Iraq invasion supporters where they thought they would be greeted as liberators, nobody asked Russia to liberate Ukraine from US influence, invasions don't work anymore. Your diatribes about US and media are standard talking points meant to derail the actual topic - Russia invading another country and failing miserably.
 
“The war in Ukraine has gutted Russia’s clandestine spetsnaz forces, and it will take Moscow years to rebuild them,” according to classified U.S. assessments obtained by the Washington Post.

“The finding, which has not been previously reported, is among a cache of sensitive materials leaked online through the messaging platform Discord. U.S. officials attributed their assessments to Russian commanders’ overreliance on the specialized units, which have been put to use as part of front-line infantry formations. Those formations, like the Ukrainians, have suffered massive numbers of dead and wounded.”
 
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