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[LeeD]

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In the far east in Russia Chinese is now the foreign language of choice in schools.

Quote from SnakeEYE:

What kind of bullshit is that???

I'm glad someone called bullshit. When I called Chinese "the foreign language of choice" I was somewhat mislead by sensationalist wording in news articles I linked above.

From the data I have it appears that somewhere between 15% and 20% of choolchildren in Vladivostok (Russian city about 100 kilometers from Chinese border) study Chinese (this includes children of Chinese immigrants).

 

[SnakeEYE]

Quote from LeeD:

I'm glad someone called bullshit. When I called Chinese "the foreign language of choice" I was somewhat mislead by sensationalist wording in news articles I linked above.

From the data I have it appears that somewhere between 15% and 20% of choolchildren in Vladivostok (Russian city about 100 kilometers from Chinese border) study Chinese (this includes children of Chinese immigrants).

Was mislead,that`s true.I live in the far east of Russia ,been to Vladic,Khabarovsk etc.. nowhere near the figures you mentioned.It maybe somewhat true for the cities, but only for so caled "biased" schools,schools that specialize in a particular subject e.g. tech biased,math biased etc

Besides,there is no need for it at all.The chinese down here speak russian much better then some local folks

 

[LeeD]

Quote from SnakeEYE:

I live in the far east of Russia ,been to Vladic,Khabarovsk etc..

Is there any intergovernmental agreement in place to allow people who live close to the border to travel from China to Russia and from Russia to China without need for visas?

 

[SnakeEYE]

Quote from LeeD:

Is there any greement in place to allow people who live close to the border to travel from China to Russia and from Russia to China without need for visas?

There is.Don`t know exact cities though.

 

[LeeD]

Quote from SnakeEYE:

Was mislead,that`s true.I live in the far east of Russia ,been to Vladic,Khabarovsk etc.. nowhere near the figures you mentioned.It maybe somewhat true for the cities, but only for so caled "biased" schools,schools that specialize in a particular subject e.g. tech biased,math biased etc

Besides,there is no need for it at all.The chinese down here speak russian much better then some local folks

The below article has no direct connection but I found it highly entertaining. It's about teh initiative by the current Autralian government to get more children to learn Asian languages.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...n/comments/column_schools_teach_bad_language/

"Just 1100 Australian children now study Indonesian in Year 12, even though it’s one of the most popular languages in primary school (since it’s so easy for teachers to learn, too). The fact is 99 per cent of students drop their Indonesian before they sit their VCE.

As for Chinese, it’s now a VCE subject picked almost exclusively by Chinese parents to give their children easy marks or a background in the family culture: “By senior secondary school, the teaching and learning of Chinese in Australia is overwhelmingly a matter of Chinese teaching Chinese to Chinese.”

 

[SnakeEYE]

Quote from LeeD:

The below article has no direct connection but I found it highly entertaining. It's about teh initiative by the current Autralian government to get more children to learn Asian languages.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...n/comments/column_schools_teach_bad_language/

"Just 1100 Australian children now study Indonesian in Year 12, even though it’s one of the most popular languages in primary school (since it’s so easy for teachers to learn, too). The fact is 99 per cent of students drop their Indonesian before they sit their VCE.

As for Chinese, it’s now a VCE subject picked almost exclusively by Chinese parents to give their children easy marks or a background in the family culture: “By senior secondary school, the teaching and learning of Chinese in Australia is overwhelmingly a matter of Chinese teaching Chinese to Chinese.”

Never a Caucasian to get used to Chinese language and traditions.Why,why mix everything up?Just because China the 2nd world economy?So fooking what Let them live their lives and let us ours

 

[LeeD]

Quote from SnakeEYE:

Never a Caucasian to get used to Chinese language and traditions.Why,why mix everything up?Just because China the 2nd world economy?So fooking what Let them live their lives and let us ours

Why do so many people learn English? Probably because there are so many places in the world where you can communicate in English.

I guess the sheer scale of both Chinese economy and, equally importantly, Chinese population abroad warrants the Chinese language a high place on the list of foreign language preferences for kids.

I don't buy into any kind of "genetic predisposition" to a specific language group or some languages being more difficult than others for general use. It's only a matter of kids starting to learn language early enough and proper teaching method.

 

[SnakeEYE]

Quote from LeeD:

Why do so many people learn English? Probably because there are so many places in the world where you can communicate in English.

I guess the sheer scale of both Chinese economy and, equally importantly, Chinese population abroad warrants the Chinese language a high place on the list of foreign language preferences for kids.

I don't buy into any kind of "genetic predisposition" to a specific language group or some languages being more difficult than others for general use. It's only a matter of kids starting to learn language early enough and proper teaching method.

Regardles of the population and the economy,Chinese will never become an international language,so there is no need to study it.Honestly,whats the point? The only case you`ll need it if you intend to live there.

 

[d08]

Quote from SnakeEYE:

Never a Caucasian to get used to Chinese language and traditions.Why,why mix everything up?Just because China the 2nd world economy?So fooking what Let them live their lives and let us ours

You are very obviously Russian as russians are known to be russocentric - language, tv, journalism, basically everything.
Knowing another language, an important language, is an obvious edge.

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Regardles of the population and the economy,Chinese will never become an international language,so there is no need to study it.Honestly,whats the point? The only case you`ll need it if you intend to live there.

Can't understand your reasoning. Chinatowns are in almost every major city on earth, most countries have China as a major trading partner and the relations will probably stay fairly good due to interdependence.

 

[shortie]

SnakeEYE has a point. Chinese is so freaking complicated, it will never be widely used by non-Chinese. so why learn it?


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