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Max, I think alot of us silent onlookers to your feud think that rs7/error404 is OK, and you're an obsessed stalker.

No offense, just clueing you in to public opinion. Don't believe me? Make a poll.
 
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Et tu, Hapaboy? You've fallen for RS7's pabulum! "If I continually post my obsession theory, people will start to believe it." I would doubt if you get your opinion on this subject from reading anything I commented on, but only the flamboyant and subjective crying of RS7; he is one who complains easily and often. Ask RS7 how many entire threads he has originated with the sole purpose of making max401 as the primary topic. And I'm obsessed with him? LOL!

But thanks for this much needed admonition to RS7: "you are partly to blame for responding every time he calls you out for something you posted or claimed to have done in your past. You're just fanning the flames." Too bad he'll never listen and I will simply sit here and snicker at the poor dolt, a crime majeure, I'm sure, that I should be shot at dawn for; sans cigarette, sans bindfold. RS7 was that kid you knew growing up that always went crying to the teacher or mommy and daddy whenever he percieved someone was picking on him. Apparently, someone over indulged him.

The guy is his own worst enemy and believe me, I have always believed in your premise "At the end of the day it's just two people who don't know each other, and will never ever meet face to face, expressing their opinions - sometimes in a heated manner. No harm done.," no matter how many times RS7 or his ever attendant fan club keep insisting that there is some kind of "serious issue" I have with RS7, a risible theory on ET if there ever was one. He's a legend in his own mind! I think one of the advantages he has is his mournful self pity posts, he is good at his own PR, while I, on the other hand, don't care enough to go tit for tat everytime he whines. Maybe I've lost his "PR battle," but I'm not that concerned if he somehow has convinced anyone, it's just not that important to me.

But it is hilarious to see him defensively re-explain, with hardly any provocation, for the umpteenth time, in blow by blow detail, each one of his now infamous escapades with rock, movie and other celebrities. I think RS7 prints his long winded diatribes because he is p.o.'d because he's now afraid to bring his star studded life with the entertainment world to the ET forum for fear of being challenged as to its veracity. Heaven forbid you don't take each and every claim as the truth.

PS - Abolish the uptick rule? Never going to happen, it would be chaos in the market.

The more you paint the person who posts under the RS7 or other handles as someone with problems, the more it illustrates your own disease and compulsion not to just let it go.

If you are sane and in control, you have a choice of whether or not to respond...so the conclusion is that you either are not sane, or continue to choose to respond to a personality that you define as having mental problems.

One common working definition of addiction is performing the same action over and over again, yet expecting different results.

You seem to me to be clearly under the influence of some type of addictive relationship with this personality, demostrating repeated compulsive and obsessive tendencies with your responses.

A truly sane and balanced person, who is secure in that knowledge, need never make someone else out to be insane or wrong in order to defend themselves or make themselves right in the eyes of others.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Max, I think alot of us silent onlookers to your feud think that rs7/error404 is OK, and you're an obsessed stalker.

No offense, just clueing you in to public opinion. Don't believe me? Make a poll.
Who do represent in the group you label as "public opinion?" Second, if you have read any my non-acrimonious posts to RS7, then you will know that in some respects, the ones you know, I think he's not that bad a soul.

As far as being an "obsessed stalker," first I don't think you have any idea of the gravity of the definition. However, if you are using RS7's extremely low threshold, I can assure you, I must be; but then it becomes a matter of his truth, not "the" truth.
 
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The more you paint the person who posts under the RS7 or other handles as someone with problems, the more it illustrates your own disease and compulsion not to just let it go.

If you are sane and in control, you have a choice of whether or not to respond...so the conclusion is that you either are not sane, or continue to choose to respond to a personality that you define as having mental problems.

One common working definition of addiction is performing the same action over and over again, yet expecting different results.

You seem to me to be clearly under the influence of some type of addictive relationship with this personality, demostrating repeated compulsive and obsessive tendencies with your responses.

A truly sane and balanced person, who is secure in that knowledge, need never make someone else out to be insane or wrong in order to defend themselves or make themselves right in the eyes of others.
ArogueTrader, you’re the most ridiculous pontificator on ET. You fabricate ludicrous theories and apply false facts of your own manufacture to promote them. Your double standard has your foot in your mouth most of the time. For example, here is your latest proclamation, gathered from years of clinical studies, no doubt.

A truly sane and balanced person, who is secure in that knowledge, need never make someone else out to be insane or wrong in order to defend themselves or make themselves right in the eyes of others.

Yet, here is what you post:

“For a while I had questions about your sanity. Your story provided me with the answers”

“Your sarcasm and bile is yet another example of passive aggressive behavior, and is consistent with a narcissistic approach to life.”

“my preference would be to have a clinical psychologist perform a full evaluation of your behavior to paint a picture of a wounded child who continues to have problems with authority figures, or authority concepts.”

“Clearly you are very emotional, and have need of expression of that part of your personality when you are not in control of a situation.”

“…speaks volumes about the egocentricity and apparent narcissism of your internet personality.”

“Your comments, followed by a signature of "sincerely" are indicative of a mental disorder.”


So according to your own lofty theorem you’re not a “sane and balanced person.” But that's ok, your posts definitely are hilarious.
 
"A truly sane and balanced person, who is secure in that knowledge, need never make someone else out to be insane or <b>wrong</b> in order to defend themselves or make themselves right in the eyes of others. "

...so everyone who's ever participated in a public debate is insane?
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

"A truly sane and balanced person, who is secure in that knowledge, need never make someone else out to be insane or <b>wrong</b> in order to defend themselves or make themselves right in the eyes of others. "

...so everyone who's ever participated in a public debate is insane?
Well, according to ArogueTrader, yes; it's one of his many dictums to ET. Of course, as the Supreme Emperor, it doesn't apply to himself.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

"A truly sane and balanced person, who is secure in that knowledge, need never make someone else out to be insane or <b>wrong</b> in order to defend themselves or make themselves right in the eyes of others. "

...so everyone who's ever participated in a public debate is insane?

Is there a difference in your mind between a public debate of issues, and a flame war?

Say you call me a name.

I can call you a name back.

You call me a name back, ad infinitum.

Say I point out behavior of yours that conforms to a standard that is considered abnormal, or obsessive by neutral bystanders.

What can you do then?

You could call me a name and not address the statements made of your behavior.

You could deny the accusation and leave it at that.

Or could you counter the observations with reason for the behavior, or explanation of behavior?

Many people have observed the interaction between Max and RS7, and many have come to the similar conclusions that I have.

Max has produced no real defense of the behavior, except to attempt to attack the credibility or character of those who are reaching the similar conclusion about his behavior.

Does his attacking the credibility or character of those pointing out his behavior prove effective in defending his behavior? Is this method of attacking others when one cannot defend themselves seem logical to you, or is does it come under the category of a logical fallacy?

In my opinion, this defensive attack behavior is typical of the common internet flamer---that is their strength, and that is where they will always end up doing in the end, as they finally reach a point where they can no longer either just walk away, or accept that they can't counter the accusation or issue with a plain, simple, reasonable and common sense explanation.


In the end, when it comes to the internet and public communications those looking on will eventually reach their own conclusions, won't they?
 
Quote from ARogueTrader:


Many people have observed the interaction between Max and RS7, and many have come to the similar conclusions that I have.
Oh, yes, many. Name them, all four of them.

Quote from ARogueTrader:Max has produced no real defense of the behavior, except to attempt to attack the credibility or character of those who are reaching the similar conclusion about his behavior.
Why are you so defensive about an attack on your credibility? You can stop worrying about your credibility, a simple reading of your posts reveals you don't have any.

The fallacy in your latest harangue is that FIRST, you must have decisively proven your conclusion, which you have not.
 
Quote from max401:

Et tu, Hapaboy? You've fallen for RS7's pabulum!

Max, you may be right. I've met neither you nor RS7/Error, so I have no way of knowing 100% if Error is full of B.S. or if you simply like to egg a response from him or have deeper issues of your own.

But one of you, preferably both, has to be the grownup here and just let it go. Both of you have taken your dispute to a level that reminds me of some junior-high school spats I had with classmates.

Just.....let.....it......go.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:



Just because liberals feel "threatened" doesn't give them a right to act like spoiled brats and shout down anyone who disagrees.


Actually they do have that right to act like spoiled brats and shout down anyone who disagrees, and conservatives have the same right, constitutionally speaking.

The problem is that liberals have made most of the "advances" you list not by democratic means, but by unelected judges inventing new "rights" that somehow no one previously could find in the Constitution.

So you have never seen the court act in a manner that was in your favor when it came to interpreting laws?

The court system is part of our democratic constitution, isn't?

You don't like the decisions, so naturally you would blame the court.

The striking down of laws as having an unconstitutional basis to them is not new, is it?

Since we don't have the framers of the constitution in front of us, it comes down to common sense and a lack of religious bias to figure it out, doesn't it?



They seem to fear the voice of the great unwashed, even as they claim to represent their interests.

I don't agree with this statement at all.

Whatever. I do take issue with your description of Rush. Rush spends a lot of time going over policy details and the political motivation behind much of what goes on. You may not care for his viewpoint or humor, but he is far more substantive than virtually any of the other commentators, like Hannity, O'Reilly, Carville, Begala, et al. Their approach is either cheer-leading or throwing mud, depending on the issue and personality.

Do I care for Rush's viewpoint? I don't agree with his viewpoint on some issues, and I think his M.O. of attacking his political opponents appeals to the lowest form of political discourse.

His sense of humor I don't find funny.

I think sense of humor is not something that is a matter of caring for viewpoints.

When I watch Jay Leno, and he lampoons both conservatives and liberals, I laugh. The jokes are funny, clever, and fresh....and Leno has perfect timing.

Rush doesn't make fun of liberals and conservatives equally, so it comes down to laughing at someone constantly poking fun of a particular personality. I got the "joke" of Rush's attack on Clinton etc. the first time I heard him, since then I don't find it either funny or fresh. Same old tired humor.

I don't find Rush funny, that is all. He has little to no comedic talent or timing in my opinion. His brand of humor doesn't illicit laughs on my part...it is not a political decision on my part, it is just a matter of humor.

Rush can be substantive, and he goes over political events and gives his interpretation of the motive behind the actions of politicians and others, but it is just his opinion of their motive, and naturally his perspective is attractive to those of like minds.

Yet, like Hannity et. al, he does come from a holier than thou self righteous perspective, which I personally don't find either useful or appealing.
 
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