Rush gets himself in trouble...damn liberals!

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Rush in my opinion is a bad guy, a liar, and a mean spirited, manipulative demagogue. I said that before he admitted his drug problem, and I will say it now.

Why do you say he is on the ground and helpless? He has been addicted to drugs for 10 years but managed his life and business and public persona with his customary gusto. And why can't I attack Rush the commentator just because he is in rehab?

You are trying to give Rush a free pass because you are sympathetic to his politics. If a highly visible liberal were to be outed for addiction I am sure the conservative media machine would go into overdrive to attack liberal positions and link them to drug addiction.

And your downplaying hypocrisy is miserable. If you cannot practice what you preach shut the fuck up and get off the air.
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Please make an argument explaining how Rush is a bad guy. He is mean spirited and I also believe he is a demagogue like many people on talk radio. But a bad guy? Come on.

And if the reports are true that he has taken over 30,000 pills of this Oxnycontin (sp) then this guy has a serious dependency problem.

I am not giving Rush a free pass. This guy is obviously in need of serious help. And if Hillary Clinton came out and admitted she was addicted to heroin, no I would not start attacking her out of nowhere. I will attack Hillary on the issues but would not use her heroine problem as a lead in or to insinuate her stupid liberal ideas must have come from the fact that she is high all the time.

As far as the hypocrisy of Rush, I think I have made numerous posts of the hypocrisy on the left. In fact I think democrat and hypocrite are synonymous. Are there hypocrites on the right? you bet there are. But for you of all people to bring hypocrisy into this and calling it miserable is quite amusing. Look at the left man and you will get a whole new meaning to that word.
 
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Please make an argument explaining how Rush is a bad guy. He is mean spirited and I also believe he is a demagogue like many people on talk radio.
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That makes him a bad guy!
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And if the reports are true that he has taken over 30,000 pills of this oxnycontin (sp) then this guy has a serious dependency problem.
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Agreed. He has a disease that has infected his mind.
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I am not giving Rush a free pass.
As far as the hypocrisy of Rush, I think I have made numerous posts of the hypocrisy on the left. In fact I think democrat and hypocrite are synonymous.
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What does your view of leftist hypocrisy have to do with Rush? Are you high or what?
 
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Less government regulation does not mean a Republic not based on the rule of law. You are employing sophistry here and it won't work. It is silly indeed to extrapolate a society in the state of nature devolving from the notion that drug decriminalization may offer less harm to society than drug interdiction.
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What is sophistry is to ass-u-me that there is not some who will and then claim the right to be able to. :)
 
IN THE END, he was betrayed by his own housekeeper. Law-enforcement sources tell NEWSWEEK that Limbaugh’s exposure as a pain-pill addict began when Wilma Cline, 42, who had worked at Limbaugh’s $30 million Florida estate from 1997 to July 2001, showed up at the Palm Beach County state attorney’s office late last year eager to sic the cops on her former boss. Her motive remained murky, but her story—how she had met Limbaugh in parking lots to exchange sandwich bags filled with “baby blues” (OxyContin pills) for a cigar box stuffed with cash—was luridly damning. Between July 2001 and June 2002, Cline delivered enough pills to Limbaugh “to kill an elephant,” she told the National Enquirer, the supermarket tabloid that broke (and paid for) Cline’s story.

She gave e-mails and ledgers to the cops showing that Limbaugh had purchased more than 30,000 hydrocodone, Lorcet and OxyContin pills, the Enquirer reported. Law-enforcement sources confirmed the basic facts of the Enquirer story to NEWSWEEK. Limbaugh protested that the stories contained “inaccuracies and distortions,” but last Friday, his vast listening audience heard that resonant, righteous, morally certain voice admit that he had become an addict and was entering rehab.
Limbaugh clung to the ideology of self-reliance to the last. “I’m not going to portray myself as a victim,” he said. Millions of pain sufferers who use powerful medications could sympathize. But the mockery was instantaneous. Liberal mouth Al Franken (author of “Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot”) hit the airwaves to relish Limbaugh’s greatest hits of hypocrisy and his sneers at celebrity dopers like baseball player Darryl Strawberry and rocker Kurt Cobain, and virtually every newspaper dredged up this 1995 quote from Rush: “Too many whites are getting away with drug use. The answer is to ... find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river.” The penalty for illegally buying large quantities of prescription painkillers in Florida can be five years in jail, and contrary to some published reports, prosecutors do go after users as well as pushers—especially if they want to make an example of a celebrity.


The fall of a moralist is always a great American spectacle. The Elmer Gantry story—the righteous preacher who turns out to be a letch and a boozer—has a special resonance in a nation that postures as morally superior but enjoys sin. Nothing entertains (or instructs in the essentials of human nature) like hypocrisy on a grand scale. When Bill Bennett, best-selling author of “The Book of Virtues,” was outed as a compulsive gambler, and evangelist Jim Bakker was caught embezzling from his Praise the Lord empire, the lamentations of the true believers were drowned out by the snickers of the knowing.
But Limbaugh’s story owes more to the “Wizard of Oz” than “The Scarlet Letter.” The man behind the curtain is not the God of Family Values but a childless, twice-divorced, thrice-married schlub whose idea of a good time is to lie on his couch and watch football endlessly. When Rush Limbaugh declared to his radio audience that he was “your epitome of morality of virtue, a man you could totally trust with your wife, your daughter, and even your son in a Motel 6 overnight,” he was acting. He “regards himself as an entertainer who is very pleased that people pay attention to his political views,” says Wall Street editorial writer John Fund, who collaborated with Limbaugh on one of the radio host’s books (“The Way Things Ought to Be”).
Granted, Limbaugh’s act has won over, or fooled, a lot of people. With his heartland pieties and scorn for “feminazis” and “commie-symps” like “West Wing” president Martin Sheen (“Martin Sheenski” to Limbaugh), he is the darling of Red State, Fly-Over America. Former president George H.W. Bush, always eager to cover his right flank, personally carried Limbaugh’s bags into the White House when Limbaugh stayed in the Lincoln Bedroom in 1992. After the Republicans won control of the House in 1994 for only the second time in 50 years, lawmakers called to personally thank Limbaugh and made him an honorary member of Congress.


Full story here: http://www.msnbc.com/news/979355.asp?
 
Quote from dgabriel:

Of course people would buy their marijauna from legal venues. If that's what they want why would they be embarrassed to do so?

Maybe there would be hash bars to convene at.

Why should the government regulate it? You are for cutting red tape are you not?

I will defer to your expertise on what the Left desires, but I know that there are prominent conservatives who favor decriminalization, William F. Buckley most notably.
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and marketsurfer........:D :D :D
 
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She gave e-mails and ledgers to the cops showing that Limbaugh had purchased more than 30,000 hydrocodone, Lorcet and OxyContin pills, the Enquirer reported. Law-enforcement sources confirmed the basic facts of the Enquirer story to NEWSWEEK. Limbaugh protested that the stories contained “inaccuracies and distortions,” but last Friday, his vast listening audience heard that resonant, righteous, morally certain voice admit that he had become an addict and was entering rehab.
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He's in a world of shit if that is true. I believe he must have been taking the Oxy 80 pills, which contain 80 milligrams of Oxycodone. To someone without a tolerance to opiates, this could really put someone in a dangerous state by supressing their CNS greatly.

It sounds like his addiction to opiates is rather severe. There is no way 30 days is enough for someone with this level of addiction.

30,000 pills??? My god!

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http://www.crackaficionado.com/

This is too funny. I had to post this here. This was posted on another thread and I put it where it belongs here. Take a look at that CA survey. I guess I was wrong, 100% of those polled want crack legalized right now!!!!! Too funny man.




Legalize It!

CA Survey results are in! You might be surprised. We sure as hell were.

A stunning one hundred percent of American adults surveyed favor the immediate and complete legalization of crack cocaine and crack-cocaine-related merchandise, according to a recent poll conducted by CA contributing editor Melly Mel.

Melly Mel, who operates a "wholesale and retail business establishment" in Washington, DC, conducted the survey by selecting a random sampling of his friends and customers, who according to him, "come from all walks of life."

According to Melly Mel, who we interviewed by scribbling questions on a wrapper from a Checker's Double Cheeseburger and sliding it under a barred iron door, the results demonstrate the burgeoning popularity and growing acceptance of crack in America.

In addition to their support for legalization, Melly Mel's results indicate that fifty percent of Americans want "more crack," while the remaining sixty-two percent want "more crack right now." (Totals may not equal one hundred percent due to rounding.)

When asked if they believed that attitudes toward crack were changing, forty percent of respondents answered "don't know," while the other sixty percent answered "more crack."

However they are interpreted, these new numbers represent a dramatic turnaround over the past several years, and give lie to the image of crack in the popular press as a scourge on our neighborhoods that must be eradicated at any cost. Said one respondent, "I'm certainly dedicated to eradicating all I can get."

When reached for comment, officials at the Partnership for a Drug Free America put CA on hold, and we don't play that. However, officials at Domino's Pizza, while they held no official position on crack legalization, did deliver a very nice large double pepperoni well within the required thirty minutes.

Jason Modesto, the delivery boy, who once dated a chick who worked for Gallup International, the prestigious polling firm, voiced concerns about the survey's sample population, saying it may have skewed the results.

In a written statement, only partially obscured by cheese, Melly Mel responded by stating, "Don't make me come out there."







 
Hurricane Cripples Honduras and Nicaragua

Hurricane Mitch struck Central America in late October and early November, leaving thousands dead and hundreds of thousands homeless. The exact death toll is likely to remain a mystery, but some estimated it would surpass 9,000. The effect on the local cocaine industry was nothing less than devastating.
Much of the crack that you can buy on the street corners of America comes from Central and South America. The devastation caused by Mitch has paralyzed both Nicaragua and Honduras, major producers of premium cocaine for the U.S. market. Cocaine shipments in these countries has been on hold since October 27, and it isn't expected to resume for some time. Major highways were severed, their bridges washed away by floodwaters, and it was unclear how the ports in the northeastern part of the countries had fared in the storm. Most of the remote jungle airstrips used by the cartels are reported to be under several feet of water.

Cocaine producers & distributers reached by phone were shaken by the wrath of Mitch.

"You don't understand the level of disaster in Honduras and Nicaragua," said Jorge L. Capon, vice president of Capon Coffee Inc., and dictitorial strongman of the Capon Cartel, a cocaine smuggling ring based in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. "There's no water, they're not selling any diesel, and there's no electricity. We can't get the cocaine out to the people that need it."

"We have no one to pick the cocoa leaves or process it into a fine white powder," said Nick Villalobos, the owner of Nick's Import-Export Co., from his mountain fortress outside of Esteli, Nicaragua. Some of his workers are unaccounted for, some because of the hurricaine, some because of what he called "aggressive marketing tactics" by rivals.

One cocaine importer, speaking off the record, estimated that it would be one month before any cocaine could be exported from Honduras or Nicaragua. "This will definately cause an upswing in market prices in the U.S.," he said. "It also gives a big advantage to the Colombians, who were unaffected by the storm."
 
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Posted: October 15, 2003
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So liberals have finally found a drug addict they don't like. And unlike the Lackawanna Six – those high-spirited young lads innocently seeking adventure in an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan – liberals could find no excuses for Rush Limbaugh.

After years of the mainstream media assuring us that Rush was a has-been, a nobody, yesterday's news – the Rush painkiller story was front-page news last week. (Would anyone care if Howell Raines committed murder?) The airwaves and print media were on red alert with Rush's admission that, after an unsuccessful spinal operation a few years ago, he became addicted to powerful prescription painkillers.

Rush Limbaugh's misfortune is apparently a bigger story than his nearly $300 million radio contract signed two years ago. That was the biggest radio contract in broadcasting history. Yet there are only 12 documents on LexisNexis that reported it. The New York Times didn't take notice of Rush's $300 million radio contract, but a few weeks later, put Bill Clinton's comparatively measly $10 million book contract on its front page. Meanwhile, in the past week alone, LexisNexis has accumulated more than 50 documents with the words "Rush Limbaugh and hypocrisy." That should make up for the 12 documents on his $300 million radio contract.

The reason any conservative's failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: Hypocrisy! Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames them. Inasmuch as liberals have no morals, they can sit back and criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It's an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.

At least Rush wasn't walking into church carrying a 10-pound Bible before rushing back to the Oval Office for sodomy with Monica Lewinsky. He wasn't enforcing absurd sexual harassment guidelines while dropping his pants in front of a half-dozen subordinates. (Evidently, Clinton wasn't a hypocrite because no one was supposed to take seriously the notion that he respected women or believed in God.)

Rush has hardly been the anti-drug crusader liberals suggest. Indeed, Rush hasn't had much to say about drugs at all since that spinal operation. The Rush Limbaugh quote that has been endlessly recited in the last week to prove Rush's rank "hypocrisy" is this, made eight years ago: "Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

What precisely are liberals proposing that Rush should have said to avoid their indignant squeals of "hypocrisy"? Announce his support for the wide and legal availability of a prescription painkiller that may have caused him to go deaf and nearly ruined his career and wrecked his life? I believe that would have been both evil and hypocritical.

Or is it simply that Rush should not have become addicted to painkillers in the first place? Well, no, I suppose not. You've caught us: Rush has a flaw. And yet, the wily hypocrite does not support flaws!

When a conservative can be the biggest thing in talk radio, earning $30 million a year and attracting 20 million devoted listeners every week – all while addicted to drugs – I'll admit liberals have reason to believe that conservatives are some sort of super-race, incorruptible by original sin. But the only perfect man hasn't walked the Earth for 2,000 years. In liberals' worldview, any conservative who is not Jesus Christ is ipso facto a "hypocrite" for not publicly embracing dissolute behavior the way liberals do.

In fact, Rush's behavior was not all that dissolute. There is a fundamental difference between taking any drug – legal, illegal, prescription, protected by the 21st Amendment or banned by Michael Bloomberg – for kicks and taking a painkiller for pain.

There is a difference morally and a difference legally. While slamming Rush, Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz recently told Wolf Blitzer, "Generally, people who illegally buy prescription drugs are not prosecuted, whereas people who illegally buy cocaine and heroin are prosecuted." What would the point be? Just say no to back surgery?

I haven't checked with any Harvard Law professors, but I'm pretty sure that, generally, adulterous drunks who drive off bridges and kill girls are prosecuted. Ah, but Teddy Kennedy supports adultery and public drunkenness – so at least you can't call him a hypocrite! That must provide great consolation to Mary Jo Kopechne's parents.

I have a rule about not feeling sorry for people worth $300 million, but I'm feeling sentimental. Evan Thomas wrote a cover story on Rush for Newsweek this week that was so vicious it read like conservative satire. Thomas called Rush a "schlub," "socially ill at ease," an Elmer Gantry, an actor whose "act has won over, or fooled, a lot of people." He compared Rush to the phony TV evangelist Jim Bakker and recommended that Rush start to "make a virtue out of honesty." (Liberals can lie under oath in legal proceedings and it's a "personal matter." Conservatives must scream their every failing from the rooftops or they are "liars.")

As is standard procedure for profiles of conservatives, Newsweek gathered quotes on Rush from liberals, ex-wives and dumped dates. Covering himself, Thomas ruefully remarked that "it's hard to find many people who really know him." Well, there was me, Evan! But I guess Newsweek didn't have room for the quotes I promptly sent back to the Newsweek researchers. I could have even corrected Newsweek's absurd account of how Rush met his current wife. (It's kind of cute, too: She was a fan who began arguing with him about something he said on air.)

Thomas also made the astute observation that "Rush Limbaugh has always had far more followers than friends." Needless to say, this floored those of us who were shocked to discover that Rush does not have 20 million friends.

So the guy I really feel sorry for is Evan Thomas. How would little Evan fare in any competitive media? Any followers? Any fans? Any readers at all? And he's not even addicted to painkillers! This week, Rush proved his motto: He really can beat liberals with half his brain tied behind his back.
 
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Posted: October 15, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2003 Universal Press Syndicate


Rush Limbaugh's misfortune is apparently a bigger story than his nearly $300 million radio contract signed two years ago. That was the biggest radio contract in broadcasting history. Yet there are only 12 documents on LexisNexis that reported it. The New York Times didn't take notice of Rush's $300 million radio contract, but a few weeks later, put Bill Clinton's comparatively measly $10 million book contract on its front page. Meanwhile, in the past week alone, LexisNexis has accumulated more than 50 documents with the words "Rush Limbaugh and hypocrisy." That should make up for the 12 documents on his $300 million radio contract.
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And you don't think the press in this country is controlled by the liberals? Sheesh Kabob!

My girl, Ann! Go get'em!
 
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