Roy Moore is a perfect example of why the MSM should not engage in 1 sided journalism

[exGOPer]

Actually blue states with their larger populations have more religious zealots in their rural areas than southern states -- and most of them are more backward than the crowd generally found south of the Mason-Dixon line. Yet I am sure your buddies in the nearby major cities would enjoy imposing their urban morals on the others in rural areas.

Amusing that once again you accuse me of being a bigot and supporter of Moore. Obviously from the threads in this forum neither of your assertions are true -- yet you keep pushing this insulting nonsense. Maybe it is time for you to explore some personal introspective regarding your abusive treatment of others.

I doubt your stats but even then, those religious zealots vote Republican, there are more Republicans in states like California then there are in entire red states so it's not surprising. Why would these Repubs be my buddies?

As for your Moore support, I know the game you are playing, you are not fooling me by getting ahead of the story.

 

[UsualName]

Cant think of a better example than this, the left wing media has completely lost their effectiveness, and lost their credibility, in any place they might be able to sway opinion. If liberals were capable of self inflection they would look at themselves and think of why their opinion is about as worthy as dogshit in every part of the country but california and newyork.

IMO Roy Moore is clearly guilty. There has been more than enough here to say the guy is guilty, but the funny thing about this is that the liberal media is not going to bother with any kind of self inflection on this one, they are just going to keep on pushing.

Roy Moore is what happens when the media gets so lopsided half the country no longer believes them, mark my words, if Roy Moore stays in he will still win in a landslide, which quite frankly is disgusting in my opinion, but when you blow your credibility this badly all of a sudden the message holds no meaning.

If i was calling out stocks day after day after day and all of them were pump and dump losers, at some point no one would give a shit about what i had to say, this is where the MSM stands right now, but instead of self inflection now they are just attacking republican voters. Its time for places like CNN, the New York Times, and Washington Post to wake up, if you want to hold credibility, then start acting fairly otherwise you end up with people like Roy Moore, or Donald Trump in charge.

You would think it would be easy for these self aggrandizing assholes to figure out why only their friends take them seriously, but apparently its not.

The “left wing media” aka the real journalists report news you don’t like so that makes them one sided? What kind of nonsense is that?

Facts don’t have multiple sides and they aren’t convenient. You either deal with the truth or you lie to yourself. Blaming the “msm” is a cop out and a license to perpetuate nonsense.

What a joke. “I don’t like the truth so it’s the msm media’s fault.” Perhaps you should consider what the “alternative media” was reporting and compare it to the “msm” and figure out which one is truly slanted.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Facts don’t have multiple sides and they aren’t convenient.

In your world, "facts" and "unsupported allegations" seem to be equivalent. They aren't.

Let me help you. Facts would be things like the Clinton Slush Fund Foundation getting massive donations from foreign groups with business before the state Department. Or the Assistant Director of the FBI handling the Clinton investigation after his wife, a novice candidate for local office, got a million dollars from a Clinton bagman.

Unsupported allegations would be suddenly remembering on the eve of an important election that one candidate tried to chat you up at the mall 40 years ago and it made you feel creepy.

 

[UsualName]

In your world, "facts" and "unsupported allegations" seem to be equivalent. They aren't.

Let me help you. Facts would be things like the Clinton Slush Fund Foundation getting massive donations from foreign groups with business before the state Department. Or the Assistant Director of the FBI handling the Clinton investigation after his wife, a novice candidate for local office, got a million dollars from a Clinton bagman.

Unsupported allegations would be suddenly remembering on the eve of an important election that one candidate tried to chat you up at the mall 40 years ago and it made you feel creepy.

I was speaking more broadly than the Moore issue but to the state of journalism compared to the alternative media.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

More help. Evidence:

 

[CaptainObvious]

The big issue here, the biggest IMO, is that the citizens of Alabama may be denied their right to vote for and elect the person of their own choosing. You can argue all you like that what Moore is accused of should disqualify him, but the truth is he does in fact meet all the current requirements to run for office. All of these political skirmishes are nothing more than politicians on both sides thinking only of the political game they play. The citizens of Alabama have a say, and their say should trump any political gamesmanship. And the media doesn't get to pick either. It's not like the people of Alabama are in some news blackout. They are getting all of the same information as everyone else, perhaps even more so. If they want Moore, then Moore it is, and it is the people of Alabama who are then responsible for that choice. That's the system we have and good ole boy Moore sure as hell won't be the first, nor the last guy to be elected to high political office who have a questionable history of sexual behavior. Plenty have been elected, re-elected, time and again. Let the political puritans cast the first stone.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

You can argue all you like that what Moore is accused of should disqualify him, but the truth is he does in fact meet all the current requirements to run for office. .

That is true or maybe not true depending on what has recently happened or might happen soon if it has not happened already. I may have missed a couple beats.

I am referring to what the Republican party in Alabama has or has not done. Moore appears as a candidate only because he is certified as the nominee for the Republican party. They can have an internal meeting- or whatever their process is- at any time and decertify his status as the nominee for the republican party which means that he is not qualified to be elected even if he gets the largest number of votes.

The hope by the republicans is that they will decertify him- something that requires an official form to be filed with the state- but that he will still get the most votes. That way Moore is declared not eligible but then the governor- who is republican gets to appoint a replacement- ie. another republican. That is their best case scenario unless someone truly wants moore.

So does he "meet all the current requirements to run for office?" I don't know. Right now maybe. If I read the news, maybe not. Although they may not pull the plug on him until the last possible minute because under that scenario they still want him out there trying to get the most votes.

What a mess. Between Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore I have pretty much heard more from Alabama of late than I need to. It is only the fact that the parties have such thin margins in the senate that makes us follow all this stuff. If the republicans had a large lead in the senate people would just shrug and say, "WTF, some kind of clown show going on in Alabama." Same thing from the dem side with Menendez. I really don't care if Roy Moore grabbed the arse of some teenage girl working at the Orange Julius at the mall in his home town.

 

[UsualName]

The big issue here, the biggest IMO, is that the citizens of Alabama may be denied their right to vote for and elect the person of their own choosing. You can argue all you like that what Moore is accused of should disqualify him, but the truth is he does in fact meet all the current requirements to run for office. All of these political skirmishes are nothing more than politicians on both sides thinking only of the political game they play. The citizens of Alabama have a say, and their say should trump any political gamesmanship. And the media doesn't get to pick either. It's not like the people of Alabama are in some news blackout. They are getting all of the same information as everyone else, perhaps even more so. If they want Moore, then Moore it is, and it is the people of Alabama who are then responsible for that choice. That's the system we have and good ole boy Moore sure as hell won't be the first, nor the last guy to be elected to high political office who have a questionable history of sexual behavior. Plenty have been elected, re-elected, time and again. Let the political puritans cast the first stone.

Im inline with your thinking a little bit on the whole mess of it all. I’m torn between this because I was thinking the governor should just call the election off, which is in her power because If Moore loses that really does a disservice to the people of Alabama. they are a red-red State and a Democrat really would not represent the people there. But on the other hand this is the guy that was nominated and we really shouldn’t be changing elections because the people nominated someone who is ill suited and might not win.

So, I’m with you actually, the people have to choose and the election should continue.

 

[Max E.]

Right wing has their own political correctness, it's not a partisan thing, there are extreme liberals (those who hate Clinton just like Trumpers), nobody is disagreeing that they are ridiculous but they don't make up the Democratic party base (see how badly Sanders lost to Clinton) unlike the Bible thumpers who are the Republican majority.

Really? they dont make up the democrats base? What do you think is going on on college campuses, is that a one off, or is that "your" people?

 

[exGOPer]

Really? they dont make up the democrats base? What do you think is going on on college campuses, is that a one off, or is that "your" people?

You mean college campuses full of Bernie Bros?