Quote from trefoil:
Viagra has been covered from day one. Day one. Point me to the thread where you object to this.
Quote from trefoil:
Oh stop.
All it is is equal access to women for the stuff they need. The pill has all kinds of beneficial side effects for women who take it, meaning that it has way more social utility than Viagra. If you guys bothered to actually listen to what this woman said you'd realize this. Actually, if you just talked to your wives/girlfriends you'd realize it.
Do you have any idea how insensitive and just plain dumb you guys trying to defend this untenable position are looking?
Oh and by the way: this isn't about taxpayer dollars being expended. As for the health insurance companies covering it, believe me it's way cheaper for them to do this than it is to cover even one extra birth, expensive all by itself, and then the ensuing pediatric bills, for any woman they're providing contraception for. Which is why this will go through with no problem at all. No one is going to wind up spending anything for any of this, net.
Quote from futurecurrents:
+1
But thinking about all the subtle aspects of this is too hard for them to do so they make it about petty selfishness and cost to them. Very simple to think about. Also sensitivity is the last thing these guys have. In fact they make fun of the whole idea.
Quote from Maverick74:
We have never had a thread on ET about Viagra that I can remember. But no, Viagra should not be paid for either with tax dollars. Come on, this is bullshit and you know it. When does it end? Where do draw the line? What if my kid is getting beat up at school? Will the government pay for his personal trainer or karate lessons. WTF has this country turned into?
Quote from trefoil:
Oh stop.
All it is is equal access to women for the stuff they need. The pill has all kinds of beneficial side effects for women who take it, meaning that it has way more social utility than Viagra. If you guys bothered to actually listen to what this woman said you'd realize this. Actually, if you just talked to your wives/girlfriends you'd realize it.
Do you have any idea how insensitive and just plain dumb you guys trying to defend this untenable position are looking?
Oh and by the way: this isn't about taxpayer dollars being expended. As for the health insurance companies covering it, believe me it's way cheaper for them to do this than it is to cover even one extra birth, expensive all by itself, and then the ensuing pediatric bills, for any woman they're providing contraception for. Which is why this will go through with no problem at all. No one is going to wind up spending anything for any of this, net.