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Quote from Bitstream:

spot on:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/...n-the-root-causes-of-terrorism/#more-17340on

Paul vs. Giuliani on the Root Causes of Terrorism

By: SilentPatriot on Tuesday, May 15th, 2007 at 8:28 PM - PDT

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When asked if 9/11 changed the American foreign policy model to "interventionalism," Rep. Ron Paul answered that it was our pre-9/11 interventionalism — and the "blowback" that ensued — that was to blame for terrorism and the 9/11 attacks. This prompted Rudy Giuliani, who maintains like George Bush that they "hate us for our freedoms," to jump in and demand Paul retract his "absurd" statement.

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This is a fundamental question that Republicans — George W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani especially — simply don't understand. They don't "hate us for our freedoms." Not that it any way excuses Bin Laden from leading these horrible attacks on the U.S, but it's simplistic and dishonest to state that it's solely an irrational hatred of our society. Here's what Michael Scheuer, the former station chief of the CIA's Osama Bin Laden task force, has to say:

Osama Doesn't Hate Our Freedom: The fundamental flaw in our thinking about Bin Laden is that "Muslims hate and attack us for what we are and think, rather than what we do." Muslims are bothered by our modernity, democracy, and sexuality, but they are rarely spurred to action unless American forces encroach on their lands. It's American foreign policy that enrages Osama and al-Qaida, not American culture and society.

How is the United States threatening Muslim lands? The post-9/11 crackdowns on Muslim charities have effectively ended tithing, which is one of the five pillars of Islam; our casual denunciations of "jihad" sneer at a central tenet of the Muslim faith. America supports corrupt anti-Muslim governments in Uzbekistan and China, "apostate" governments in the Middle East, and the new Christian state of East Timor. And, above all, it continues to house occupying forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It's simple-minded people like Dinesh D'Souza who argue that it's our culture and "freedom" that are to blame for Islamic terrorism; intellectuals and people who actually know the history of the Middle East and appreciate the ramifications our foreign policy has, like reknowned historian Chalmers Johnson and Michael Scheuer to name a few, who understand the multi-faceted root causes.

As a matter of fact, in videotaped messages before and after 9/11, bin Laden explained his beef with the United States.

In several videotaped messages since 9/11 bin Laden gave very different, specific reasons for the attack, to wit: the U.S.-led embargo of humanitarian aid to Iraq in the 1990s following Gulf War I (in hopes that starving, illness-crazed Iraqis would arise to overthrow Saddam Hussein), later replaced with a corrupt and equally ineffective U.N. food-and-medicine-for-oil program, which together were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children; America's unwavering Israel-first Middle-East foreign policy which has so often ignored the rights of Palestinians and which contributes to so much instability in the region, and the continued, growing presence of U.S. military bases in the Middle East, specifically in Saudi Arabia, the holiest lands in Islam.

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There's always a few suckers around...looks like you're one of them if you believe this horseshit.

Tell me....when the wife abuser smacks his wife, do you question him as to why he did it? Do you suggest that under some set of circumstances there is a legitimate reason why the wife abuser hit his wife?

You, ratsass and Ron Paul all need to rethink this issue. It may be that US foreign policy has made mistakes. But let's be clear, there is no mistake that warrants flying airplanes into commercial buildings killing the innocent.

But let's face it...the terrorists believe that killing the "infidels" is their duty, their right. They don't need a reason. They just make up the reasons for you.

Again, Paul is on the way out. A couple of months at most is my prediction.

OldTrader
 
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There's always a few suckers around...looks like you're one of them if you believe this horseshit.

Tell me....when the wife abuser smacks his wife, do you question him as to why he did it? Do you suggest that under some set of circumstances there is a legitimate reason why the wife abuser hit his wife?

You, ratsass and Ron Paul all need to rethink this issue. It may be that US foreign policy has made mistakes. But let's be clear, there is no mistake that warrants flying airplanes into commercial buildings killing the innocent.

But let's face it...the terrorists believe that killing the "infidels" is their duty, their right. They don't need a reason. They just make up the reasons for you.

Again, Paul is on the way out. A couple of months at most is my prediction.

OldTrader
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this coming from someone still in denial about the real estate bust. LOL LOL LOL i told you it was a credit bubble


speakin of suckers... you still havent figured out the 9/11 scam have you? just admit bldg 7 was a controlled demo and i will leave you alone this time.
 
sorry but you are absolutely clueless. not worth my time to debate with you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834249/posts



Quote from OldTrader:

There's always a few suckers around...looks like you're one of them if you believe this horseshit.

Tell me....when the wife abuser smacks his wife, do you question him as to why he did it? Do you suggest that under some set of circumstances there is a legitimate reason why the wife abuser hit his wife?

You, ratsass and Ron Paul all need to rethink this issue. It may be that US foreign policy has made mistakes. But let's be clear, there is no mistake that warrants flying airplanes into commercial buildings killing the innocent.

But let's face it...the terrorists believe that killing the "infidels" is their duty, their right. They don't need a reason. They just make up the reasons for you.

Again, Paul is on the way out. A couple of months at most is my prediction.

OldTrader
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Ron Paul on CNN talking about the debate 5-16-07, telling giuliani, "go read the 911 report and then apologize to me":

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Quote from Bitstream:

sorry but you are absolutely clueless. not worth my time to debate with you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834249/posts
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Bitstream: There is no debate, just as there is no debate about the justification for why a wife abuser hits his wife. Bin Laden seems to have left out the idea that he beliefs it is his DUTY to kill infidels. But I suppose that fact escapes you Bitstream, no surprise there.

OldTrader
 
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Bitstream: There is no debate, just as there is no debate about the justification for why a wife abuser hits his wife. Bin Laden seems to have left out the idea that he beliefs it is his DUTY to kill infidels. But I suppose that fact escapes you Bitstream, no surprise there.

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Here is a different twist on the wife abuser analogy you are using. The man who habitually abuses his wife and children to their breaking point. Then one day he comes home falls asleep and his wife cuts off his johnson. The US's foreign policy is the husband and its Johnson is the World Trade Center.
 
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Here is a different twist on the wife abuser analogy you are using. The man who habitually abuses his wife and children to their breaking point. Then one day he comes home falls asleep and his wife cuts off his johnson. The US's foreign policy is the husband and its Johnson is the World Trade Center.
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You left one important factor out: in your scenario the wife says beforehand that she hates all men, and that her goal in life is to cut off their johnson.

OldTrader
 
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