Quote from Mom0/pH0x:
the point is that canada, and several other nations manage to provide care comparable to the quality of the usa and a far lower price per capita, and provide universal coverage... my argument here isn't in support of universal healthcare, or lackthereof, but rather how ridiculously shitty the usa is as a steward of funds, either because of incompetence, corruption, or both... even in comparison to all these supposedly "inefficient" socialistic nations... which all happen to allocate resources better than the usa...
It has been proven beyond a doubt the stastics regularly quoted to show longer life spans, birth rates have are tripe gamed by the WHO.
Honestly I can't understand how people continue to promote the fallacy that the U.S. healthcare system is mediocre or not worth the money spent.
If you want to argue the merits of universal coverage fine, but don't sit there and spew the lies that the Government will provide world class healthcare or improve quality when we have by far the finest healthcare system in the World based on real results.
Please note that they laws of physics and economics show that in order to cap "costs" it requires rationing.
As result your health care systems resemble lottos, not to the benefit anyone but to allow government to expand control for the sake of power.
What is this obsession with total healthcare dollar spent how is that even comparable again across nations. Do we analyze total dollars spent on TVs, or chocolate and see if we are making wise decisions.
The whole point of capitalism is for you too spend your money how you see fit. If healthcare is not a priority or needed than thats up to the individual.
But Please drop the bullshit stats.
http://health.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/060924/2healy.htm
First, it's shaky ground to compare U.S. infant mortality with reports from other countries. The United States counts all births as live if they show any sign of life, regardless of prematurity or size. This includes what many other countries report as stillbirths. In Austria and Germany, fetal weight must be at least 500 grams (1 pound) to count as a live birth; in other parts of Europe, such as Switzerland, the fetus must be at least 30 centimeters (12 inches) long. In Belgium and France, births at less than 26 weeks of pregnancy are registered as lifeless. And some countries don't reliably register babies who die within the first 24 hours of birth. Thus, the United States is sure to report higher infant mortality rates. For this very reason, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which collects the European numbers, warns of head-to-head comparisons by country.
No nation can has comparable statics to U.S. when looking across equal incidents. Given the size and diverse make up of the nation its sweet golden apples and rotten bananas at best.
In comparable specific disease classes for example cancers the U.S. is miles ahead of any other nation.
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20080716/cancer-survival-rates-vary-by-country
Neonatal care here is beyond belief we are saving kids at 15-20 weeks premature.
Not to mention the fact that most new technologies, drugs, methodoligies are being advanced by the U.S.A at this point, since Universal Healthcare nations have no real need for research.
Bottom line our healthcare system is the finest in the world, our trauma centers, neonatal centers, cancer centers, heart centers, childrens hospitals, most of them built and funded privately. All our major metropolitan cities have world class facilities,
Most Americans live within hours of a world class facility.
Seriously do you people really believe your bullshit.
Has your government brainwashed you so much.
I can see my childs pediatrician today. tomorrow, no appointment. All of them top medical schools graduates.
I can pick up the phone, and call for any specialist, wait a few days to a couple weeks.
Anyone with cancer, can hop on a plane schedule a visit with any specialist in the country and receive multiple opinions on their conditions.
I want a blood test couple of hours.
If an ambulance picks me up I can tell which hospital to take me.
There are MRI machines, PET , CAT
cyberknife centers on every corner here.
Lasik centers, breast augmentation. Any secretary around here has fake tits for a high school present.
I don't see any Americans traveling abroad for life saving treatments in drove, the occasional liberal flake not included.
Is our system perfect far from it, this is real life not Utopia. But it is far better than anything anyone else has to offer. We spend a shit ton of money on healthcare also because the damn government is on on 50% and ever since they got in the act in 1965 they have screwed the inflationary curve in healthcare.
Seriously wake the fuck up and watch this.
I particularly enjoy how your world class system took a year to amputate the wrong leg. (@10:20)..I know anecdotal but still gets the point across.
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