Quote from DAS Trader:
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Quote from Maverick74:
That's actually the best video I've seen on Ron Paul yet.
The problem DAS is that no one wants to get rid of the welfare state even if it means restoring the economy or ending wars. And the welfare state is where Obama gets his power. When I was a kid, the welfare state was so small. No one pandered to it because there were no votes there. So it had to be created. It had to be built. It had to be spread. It had to be maintained. Now it's so large that it makes up the majority of the voting public. Mission accomplished. I think the democrats got what they wanted. A majority welfare state where the minorities have now become the majority and where there is no hope or chance of it ever changing.
Quote from Maverick74:
That's actually the best video I've seen on Ron Paul yet.
The problem DAS is that no one wants to get rid of the welfare state even if it means restoring the economy or ending wars. And the welfare state is where Obama gets his power. When I was a kid, the welfare state was so small. No one pandered to it because there were no votes there. So it had to be created. It had to be built. It had to be spread. It had to be maintained. Now it's so large that it makes up the majority of the voting public. Mission accomplished. I think the democrats got what they wanted. A majority welfare state where the minorities have now become the majority and where there is no hope or chance of it ever changing.
Quote from DAS Trader:
Let's push it back the other way. Ron Paul will begin the process. He's the only one offering substantial cuts to spending, therefore, the only one approaching our debt problem logically. He won't get everything he wants (or doesn't want) but Ron Paul will push things in the right direction. Granted, we are talking about a fundamental shift in perception. Pain tends to wake people out of their slumber.
Quote from Maverick74:
Yes, but you are not listening. Pushing it back means telling the majority of people in this country they we need to take away their welfare.
Quote from Maverick74:
And how do you propose we do that? I've said this to you many times DAS, neither the right or the left wants to give up their welfare. They just don't want to. You can't make them. They have the vote.
Quote from Maverick74:BTW, this is why a majority of Ron Pauls support are young people. They are the only ones who have not yet been indoctrinated in the system yet. This is why the liberals are working so hard at the college level to get them on board.