Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

the polls had raw data and then they forced the answers into their polling template. It turned out those which were using the 2008 template were not far off...

but... a polls I reviewed even found more republicans in the survey and then they skewed it to D plus 7. so even the correct polls were not using the raw data.

As it turned out... I just heard fewer people voted for Obama than 2008, as we predicted... what surprised...was the fact fewer people voted from Romney than McCain.

Quote from mrbill:

A couple of things. One, Jem is Lawyer? For some reason this really surprises me, given his feelings about things.

Two, regarding this: “Most of the polls I ‘unskewed’ were based on samples that generally included about five or six or seven percent more Democrats than Republicans....

Polling: You call 1000 Americans, not knowing if they are Rep's or Dem's, the sample is of American voters, likely voters, whatever.

If you find there are more Dem's, then there will be outcomes that show more Democrat leaning, followed by actual voting results. If we conduct polls like Fox or MSNBC, or polling their base, then the results are obviously meaningless.

The larger the polling data, the more varied the incomes, geography, and real factors come into play to make for better polling results.

Never could understand all the skewed polls debates, by definition, if done correctly, a poll should not be skewed. And, in any case, any attempt to UnSkew would be worthless IMO.
 
first you have to prove anything I said in that post was incorrect ... you anti science kook.


Quote from Free Thinker:

lol. what will your new handle be? bagdad bob?
 
Quote from jem:

first you have to prove anything I said in that post was incorrect ... you anti science kook.

lol. you believe an invisible man in the sky made the world and you call me anti science? you have no shame.
 
Quote from Ricter:
Well, he IS a lawyer. Not to impugn that occupation. (Maybe a little.)
A lawyer repeatedly spelling cite, a key word of the trade, as site !!??
An extra on Law and Order SVU maybe, even that's a stretch.

Quote from Free Thinker:
at least this guy is trying to save face. jem, not so much. of course jem has experience being wrong and sticking to it in the face of obvious evidence he is wrong. intelligent design,birtherism,taxes,climate change and now skewed polls. jem is shameless:
Tell me about it, you're not kidding.
 
Quote from jem:

As it turned out... I just heard fewer people voted for Obama than 2008, as we predicted...

Cherish everything what you can. :)

He sure cleaned up with the EC. By the way your disappointment would be less, had you trusted real science in polling.... Then you wouldn't have your hopes up....
 
the real science of polling still comes down to picking the correct template.

I was convinced Obama would not turn out as many voters as he did in 2008. I was right about that.

I expected more people to vote for Romney than McCain I was wrong about that.


Quote from Pekelo:

Cherish everything what you can. :)

He sure cleaned up with the EC. By the way your disappointment would be less, had you trusted real science in polling.... Then you wouldn't have your hopes up....
 
to stu...

Quote from jem:

you are such a little weasel.
you do not understand science
you do not understand burdens of proof.

1. the evidence we have is that CO2 lags temperture and more recently scientists have stated temperature has not gone up in 15 years. So I have been right about that so far for years. Of course I have never said there is no man made warming just that you have no proof.

any time you wish to prove otherwise... go for it.

2. I simply proved that scientists such as hawkings and many others state our universe appears designed... and then they provide speculative explanations.

3. Obama defaulted in court rather than provide proof of where he was born. I stated you have no proof. If you do provide it.

4. I stated I was wrong about the polls.

If you prove any of above incorrect I will stop posting under this handle.
 
by the way freethinker...

freethought is compatible with theism and incompatible with stating you know there is no God. because the process of thinking you can prove there is no god is delusional given our current science.


in short you calling yourself a freethinker makes you an ironic joke.
 
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