Quote from PiggyBank:
I wasn't 'representing' lucrum, i was pointing out that it isn't hypocritical to accept the benefits of something that you've been forced to pay for, whether or not you disagree in principle. That was my argument. But I'll also point out that you DO have to contribute something to receive medicare.
As for Universal healthcare being the only option for seniors.. that might be true atm, but I think there may be ways for them to get coverage privately and profitably for the insurer, in theory anyway. Think about this, if govt just passed a law requiring insurers to cover anyone who was willing to pay.. the elderly and people with preexisting conditions would have a higher premium plan, but if it was unaffordable to most (which seems possible/likely) then the insurer's could pass the cost through to everyone else. So just like we're gonna get with obamacare, the rates for the young and healthy would go higher and the rates for the unhealthy and old would go lower. If the premiums were still too high the govt could provide something like tax credits to the insurers, so they could take out the built in cost of taxes, for each senior or high risk individual that they cover. This would allow them to keep their margins in line while providing lower premiums. Now I have no idea what the premiums would actually be but the insurance companies are now being forced to cover preexisting conditions under obamacare so they have a way to make it work, which might be only higher volume, but that applies to this hypo as well. Also, this would allow us to get rid of medicare (which isn't going to last, as is) and the bureaucracy associated with it. And it keeps Congress's hands off the funds which they raid and blow on other shit.
I am almost 100% sure that you are gonna trash everything i just said, cause you're a dick.. but if you think about it, it's rational and obviously if achievable it would be less costly for the nation as a whole than universal healthcare/medicare/obamacare. And again this wasn't why I quoted you in the first place.