Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

nitrene said:
...Trump is not really a traditional GOP figure. He was a Democrat before running in 2016. He's a kind of independent himself...
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Correct, Trump is not a traditional GOP. In contrast, he's a reformist from the Ross Perot party that entered the GOP as a trojan horse.

Trump's action (lack of action) on January 6th and his enjoyment from his followers shouts to "Hang Mike Pence"...

History will one day point to that day on January 6th, 2021 when he attacked Democracy, U.S. Constitution, and a fair election as a pivot point in the decision for the 2024 U.S. Presidency.

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I expect Democrats to unite against RFK Jr.

Also, I expect many MAGA Republicans who are conspiracy theorists to embrace RFK Jr. because they're that stupid and I expect Haley Republicans to embrace an Independent (doesn't need to be RFK Jr.) because they dislike Trump and Biden.

Another possibility...Haley becomes a write-in for the 2024 Presidential election and/or another Independent write-in...

While not securing the nomination, she is uniquely positioned to influence the outcome against Trump. In a demonstration of her commitment to the principles of democracy and a move to offer voters an alternative path, Haley could decide to run as a write-in candidate...

Haley showcased the potential weaknesses in Trump’s reelection armor by capturing 23 percent in North Carolina, 34 percent in Virginia, 27 percent in Michigan, 33 percent in Colorado and a staggering 50 percent in Vermont. These percentages are not just numbers; they embody the dedication of voters who were fully aware that Haley would not clinch the nomination but still decided to vote for her (or against Trump).​


It's a good time for a Write-In or Independent to sneak into the Oval Office because of a Shotgun Scatter BuckShot Election. Throw in another Independent...Trump and Biden will have a big problem and many voters will get their wish of not having a Trump or Biden. :D

Regardless of what I expect, Trump has three huge problems that will determine how many votes he loses...
  • Dependent upon his VP selection. MAGA will be very happy if he selects a woman but Trump is not the type to share the thrown with a woman. That's a dilemma for Trump.
  • Trump's constant attacks on the Republican supporters of Haley who consistently take a lot of votes from Trump.
  • Elephant in the Room - A felony conviction of Trump that many flip-floppers and sell-outs ignore. Actually, many underestimates the impact it will have on the 2024 Presidential elections.
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With 20% of 2020 Biden voters not voting for him in 2024 many will go with RFK especially now that he has a progressive,female minority VP

Biden supporters have been trying to stick him with the conspiracy theorist label but it is not working,his polling numbers has stayed consistently in double digits since he announced he was running.Even if some think he is a conspiracy theorist for the millions of democrats who hate Biden Biden is far worst than a conspiracy theorist.

MAGAs are not going to vote for RFK when most of his policies are as far left as Bernie Sanders and AOC.
 
nitrene said:
I think the rise of Independents in the 2024 election seem to further my view that 2012 was the last of the traditional D vs. R battle.

Trump is not really a traditional GOP figure. He was a Democrat before running in 2016. He's a kind of independent himself. It seems that the Democrats want to keep the cohesiveness of a broad party but I think the Hamas attacks seems to have splintered even that concept. I think pretty soon there will be 3 or 4 more parties in the US elections going forward. I'm not sure how a coalition would work in the US however.

The candidates that Tony Stark would back seems like they would be different than wrbtrader even though they could both be labeled "left" by the MSM. I voted for Perot in 1992, Clinton in 1996, Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama in 2008 & 2012. I didn't vote for either major candidate in 2016. They both seemed "off" to me. Ditto in 2020.
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Voted for GW Bush in 2000 against Gore, before I figured out he was an NWO globalist warmonger. That vote, I regret but, would never vote for Gore. Never voted for McCain or Romney either and I know that was the right decision. Those two RINOs were no good, NWO globalists as well. Voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020. Too bad, the RINOs conspired with the Democrats to cheat President Donald Trump to keep him from being re-elected. He did a lot good things for the US, those 4 years. Much more than all the Democrat or Republican US Presidents in the last 30 years atleast. Blacks now regret their votes for Joe Biden but, too late now when he is half-way thru destroying the US completely. They might still succeed if they manage to cheat President Donald Trump again. Let us hope the RINOs do not pull their dirty tricks again in Georgia and Arizona.
 
smallfil said:
Voted for GW Bush in 2000 against Gore, before I figured out he was an NWO globalist warmonger. That vote, I regret but, would never vote for Gore. Never voted for McCain or Romney either and I know that was the right decision. Those two RINOs were no good, NWO globalists as well. Voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020. Too bad, the RINOs conspired with the Democrats to cheat President Donald Trump to keep him from being re-elected. He did a lot good things for the US, those 4 years. Much more than all the Democrat or Republican US Presidents in the last 30 years atleast. Blacks now regret their votes for Joe Biden but, too late now when he is half-way thru destroying the US completely. They might still succeed if they manage to cheat President Donald Trump again. Let us hope the RINOs do not pull their dirty tricks again in Georgia and Arizona.
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Lol, this is kooky shit.
 
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Lol, this is kooky shit.
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It's QAnon language...

It's hilarious because it contains a contradictory statement that he admits to the truth about the 2020 U.S. Presidential election results.

Trump lost or Biden won when smallfil states who won and why the person won...he blames Blacks. That is the admission of the truth who truly won in the 2020 Presidential Election in a fair election. The contradiction is when smallfil clarifies what Blacks did...he states Trump was cheated as in a fraud election by Blacks.

He identifies no other ethnic group of Americans (e.g. Asian, Hispanic, Mixed Race, Native) and nothing involving Urban communities dense population, Trump error in catering to White Supremacy but he's mad at RHINOs while not blaming them for fraud...only Blacks as fraud voters. ​

Buy1Sell2 does that bullshit rhetoric too. :D :rolleyes: :p

Unfortunately, these two election deniers /MAGA/QAnon/Conspiracy Theorists continue planting the seeds on a 2024 Trump Presidential Election lost when they say the following.

Blacks now regret their votes for Joe Biden but, too late now when he is half-way thru destroying the US completely. They might still succeed if they manage to cheat President Donald Trump again (his exact words).​

He's blaming the ethnic group that could cause Trump to lose again in 2024 while at the same time calling them cheaters. Simply, he doesn't blame any other ethnic group for Trump's 2020 Election loss...he points the middle finger at Blacks.

He's afraid of Blacks as in Black Americans.​

Just as importantly, he's unwilling to accept that Nikki Haley Republican supporters continue to not vote for Trump, increasing possibility Trump becomes a convicted felon, and the increasing possibility that an Independent takes enough votes away that it impacts the 2024 U.S. Presidential election results.

Sadly, when people like smallfil and Buy1Sell2 chose someone that does win...they consider the voters, voting machines as being a fair election only because their candidate won.

Election Deniers - MAGA - QAnon - Conspiracy Theorists

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wrbtrader said:
It's QAnon language...

It's hilarious because it contains a contradictory statement that he admits to the truth about the 2020 U.S. Presidential election results.

Trump lost or Biden won when smallfil states who won and why the person won...he blames Blacks. That is the admission of the truth who truly won in the 2020 Presidential Election in a fair election. The contradiction is when smallfil clarifies what Blacks did...he states Trump was cheated as in a fraud election by Blacks.

He identifies no other ethnic group of Americans (e.g. Asian, Hispanic, Mixed Race, Native) and nothing involving Urban communities dense population, Trump error in catering to White Supremacy but he's mad at RHINOs while not blaming them for fraud...only Blacks as fraud voters. ​

Buy1Sell2 does that bullshit rhetoric too. :D :rolleyes: :p

Unfortunately, these two election deniers /MAGA/QAnon/Conspiracy Theorists continue planting the seeds on a 2024 Trump Presidential Election lost when they say the following.

Blacks now regret their votes for Joe Biden but, too late now when he is half-way thru destroying the US completely. They might still succeed if they manage to cheat President Donald Trump again (his exact words).​

He's blaming the ethnic group that could cause Trump to lose again in 2024 while at the same time calling them cheaters. Simply, he doesn't blame any other ethnic group for Trump's 2020 Election loss...he points the middle finger at Blacks.

He's afraid of Blacks as in Black Americans.​

Just as importantly, he's unwilling to accept that Nikki Haley Republican supporters continue to not vote for Trump, increasing possibility Trump becomes a convicted felon, and the increasing possibility that an Independent takes enough votes away that it impacts the 2024 U.S. Presidential election results.

Sadly, when people like smallfil and Buy1Sell2 chose someone that does win...they consider the voters, voting machines as being a fair election only because their candidate won.

Election Deniers - MAGA - QAnon - Conspiracy Theorists

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Blacks know Trump is a racist but many now realize Biden has fucked them over far more than Trump ever has.
 
Tony Stark said:
Blacks know Trump is a racist but many now realize Biden has fucked them over far more than Trump ever has.
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Accordingly to smallfil and many Election Deniers - MAGA - QAnon - Conspiracy Theorists...

It's only Blacks who are cheaters in the U.S. Presidential elections and they could manage to cheat Trump again in the 2024 U.S. Presidential elections.​

Trump has to win the 2024 U.S. Presidential election and do such while not as a convicted felon, and with the support of Nikki Haley's Republican supporters for Black American voters to be considered as voters in a fair election...an election that Blacks did not cheat. :D

In the meantime...



The smallfils have been planting seeds about fraud voters only against one type of ethnic American just as Trump and other election deniers tried hard to make it more difficult for certain types of Americans to vote in the 2024 U.S. Presidential elections by creating new laws, creating more watchdog groups, gerrymandering (redistricting)...

All of this is because the smallfil's and many others like him/her are afraid of Black Americans cheating to prevent Trump from returning to the White House.

It will have nothing to do with Trump becoming a convicted felon and nothing to do with Republican supporters voting for a Nikki Haley write-in...this is not even on his radar as the reason for Trump to lose in 2024. :rolleyes:​

He mentions no other ethnic group and just calls them Blacks...not Black Americans. It is smallfil's way of saying they're not patriotic (UnAmerican). I expect this type of rhetoric from these MAGA idiots to increase in August, September, and October just before the 2024 November Presidential election.

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