Regardless of what they decide on immunity,it has no impact if he qualifies for the presidency.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.
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Regardless of what they decide on immunity,it has no impact if he qualifies for the presidency.
Tony, the Supreme Court will decide. No debates. As a GOP...I've stated to you many times...if I can not get a Cheney, Haley, Kinzinger as the Republican nominee...
I'm left with any one of them as a Republican write-in...so far...Haley has been doing just fine (taking 15% - 30% of the Republican vote) as a write-in after dropping out. Biden or the criminal case is the last resort as a way to stop the Trump virus.
Yet, I'm not going to be too conflicted with any of the above scenarios just as long as one of the above scenarios stop the Trump virus.
Oh wait, you continue to ignore the above as you embrace being ignorant about what other members say to you.
Reminder, take the blinders off...#cspan for the Supreme Court Immunity case and #courttv for the Trump criminal cases. April 2024 will be a month to remember in America's history.
You can debate about the decisions later. Also, I'm not sorry I do not support a conspiracy theorist like RFK Jr.
P.S. I misspoke about the criminal case being the last resort with Biden as the last resort to stop the Trump virus. Reality, this is April 2024...the first criminal case will start this month along with the Supreme Court deciding on Trump's immunity.
Republican write-in or Biden is the last resort... preferably a Republican write-in. I'm happy with any of the above scenarios to prevent another Trump Presidency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...e_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign
https://rvat.org/
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-50m-campaign-to-block-trump-from-reelection/
https://lincolnproject.us/
https://www.youtube.com/@TheLincolnProject
https://rvat.org/
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-50m-campaign-to-block-trump-from-reelection/
https://lincolnproject.us/
https://www.youtube.com/@TheLincolnProject
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Immunity yes.Does he meet the requirements to be president, no, as there is no need to decide that.
Opinion
The bare-chested Forrest Gump factor that could make or break Trump and Biden
Nick Bryant Journalist and author April 5, 2024
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...or-break-trump-and-biden-20240404-p5fhhr.html
Kennedy clan have made something of a habit over the decades of being present, Forrest Gump-like, at critical junctures in history. Joseph Kennedy, the family’s domineering patriarch, served as US ambassador to the UK in the run-up to World War II. John F. Kennedy was president when, during the Cuban missile crisis, the Cold War came frighteningly close to turning thermo-nuclear hot.
Robert Kennedy had a cameo role during the McCarthy era, working as a lawyer for the red-baiting Republican Senator, Joseph McCarthy. On the day of the moon landing in 1969, the morning papers also carried front page news that Senator Ted Kennedy had driven a car off a bridge at Chappaquiddick, a late-night accident in which a young campaign worker, Mary Jo Kopechne, drowned.
Robert F. Kennedy Jnr, the flame-thrower in waiting.Credit: Bloomberg
Now Robert F. Kennedy Jr, the third-born child of RFK and the nephew of the former president, is running for the White House in the most important election of the post-Civil War era. Once again, then, a Kennedy is in the cockpit of history. Though the focus, inevitably, has been on the rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, this scion of America’s most famous political dynasty, a direct descendant of “Camelot”, could ultimately become the kingmaker.
Kennedy is polling strongly. In a hypothetical three-way contest with Trump and Biden, one survey put him at 22 per cent. Obviously, he is not going to win. Nonetheless, that is the highest level of support for any third-party candidate since Ross Perot, the Texas billionaire and proto-Trump, who shocked the political establishment in the 1992 election when he mounted an unexpectedly disruptive challenge against George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton.
Much like Perot, Kennedy is a human headline. This week, he called Biden “a much worse threat to democracy” than Trump, after surmising that the president’s attempts to pressure social media platforms into taking down posts promoting misinformation about COVID was more egregious than Trump’s role in the January 6 insurrection, which he has also condemned. The Kennedys, ever since JFK started turning sentences with clever rhetorical inversions, have been renowned for their inspirational grandiloquence.
Robert F. Kennedy serves up something more modern-day: incendiary memes and attention-grabbing soundbites.
Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, and Joe Biden. Credit: AP and YouTube
The 70-year-old, who is running as an independent, obviously benefits from name recognition. “Kennedy”, despite all the revelations about the dark side of Camelot, remains a potent political brand. However, a key to understanding his popularity is the simple fact that his surname isn’t either Trump or Biden. The re-run of the 2020 election is proving one of the most unpopular match-ups in US history. Kennedy is attracting a cohort of voters dubbed the double-haters, who don’t want to give either the 45th or 46th president four more years in the White House.
What makes his presence so intriguing is not just his ancestral bloodline. It is where he sits in the political spectrum. Robert F. Kennedy is where the American left meets the American right. He’s a clickbait candidate for fellow anti-vaxxers and conspiracy peddlers. RFK Jr has amplified the specious claim, for example, that COVID vaccines were developed to control people through microchips. Over a three-decade career as an environmental lawyer, however, he has also built a reputation as a green crusader, which appeals to progressives.
In assessing his potential impact, initially it was thought Kennedy would siphon votes from Trump. After all, prominent right-wing opinion formers, such as Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon, have given him airtime, and he even appeared on Infowars with Alex Jones, that septic sinkhole of misinformation. Last year, Bannon suggested RFK Jr should become Trump’s vice-presidential running mate.
Recently, however, polls have suggested he is drawing more Democratic support, especially among the young. In December, a poll showed him getting a staggering 40 per cent of voters aged between 18 and 34, and leading both Biden and Trump among voters under the age of 45. The appearance of youthfulness and masculinity has long been part of the Kennedy family’s mystique, and a workout video of this muscly septuagenarian pumping iron and grinding out push-ups, which he posted on social media, almost instantly went viral. Young men, who inhabit the “manosphere” online, have become some of his most admiring bros.
Democrats, of course, are still traumatised by the 2000 election, when the consumer advocate Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the presidency against George W. Bush. In Florida alone, where Bush’s official winning margin was just 537 votes, Nader received 97,488 votes. Nationally, Nader polled just 2.7 per cent of the vote. Yet that was more than enough to act as a spoiler for Al Gore.
Robert Kennedy is presently averaging close to 10 per cent. As election day approaches, support for third-party candidates often dwindles. But in a close election, where the outcome could be determined by shifts of a few thousand votes in a handful of key states, Kennedy will unquestionably be a major factor.
There are obstacles in his way. The Kennedy family, who remain staunchly loyal to their fellow Irish-American Joe Biden, have ostracised him. At a St Patrick’s Day event at the White House, they formed what looked like a shamrock guard around Biden. The mechanics of US democracy also threaten to hurl a spanner in the works. So far, RFK has gathered enough signatures to qualify for the ballot in just one state, Utah, although that number will doubtless grow.
Democrats are hoping that when Kennedy faces tougher media scrutiny, and some of his offbeat views became more widely known, his appeal will fade. Yet that’s an optimistic take on the current state of US politics. It ignores that Kennedy’s popularity is but another reminder of how the fringe has folded into the mainstream.
Just witness the continued strength of Donald Trump, the frontrunner in the presidential race. Posting a video showing images of a hog-tied Joe Biden painted on the back of a pick-up truck barely registered on the Richter scale of Trumpian scandal.
In nobler times, the Kennedys personified America’s best self: the country’s dynamism, glamour, rationality, ambition and promise of immigrant success. These days, though, the USA seems otherworldly rather than exceptional. So much for passing the torch to a new generation. Robert Kennedy offers proof that even political aristocrats can morph into populist flame-throwers.
Nick Bryant, a former BBC Washington correspondent, is the author of the upcoming book, The Forever War: America’s Unending Conflict with Itself.
The bare-chested Forrest Gump factor that could make or break Trump and Biden
Nick Bryant Journalist and author April 5, 2024
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...or-break-trump-and-biden-20240404-p5fhhr.html
Kennedy clan have made something of a habit over the decades of being present, Forrest Gump-like, at critical junctures in history. Joseph Kennedy, the family’s domineering patriarch, served as US ambassador to the UK in the run-up to World War II. John F. Kennedy was president when, during the Cuban missile crisis, the Cold War came frighteningly close to turning thermo-nuclear hot.
Robert Kennedy had a cameo role during the McCarthy era, working as a lawyer for the red-baiting Republican Senator, Joseph McCarthy. On the day of the moon landing in 1969, the morning papers also carried front page news that Senator Ted Kennedy had driven a car off a bridge at Chappaquiddick, a late-night accident in which a young campaign worker, Mary Jo Kopechne, drowned.
Robert F. Kennedy Jnr, the flame-thrower in waiting.Credit: Bloomberg
Now Robert F. Kennedy Jr, the third-born child of RFK and the nephew of the former president, is running for the White House in the most important election of the post-Civil War era. Once again, then, a Kennedy is in the cockpit of history. Though the focus, inevitably, has been on the rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, this scion of America’s most famous political dynasty, a direct descendant of “Camelot”, could ultimately become the kingmaker.
Kennedy is polling strongly. In a hypothetical three-way contest with Trump and Biden, one survey put him at 22 per cent. Obviously, he is not going to win. Nonetheless, that is the highest level of support for any third-party candidate since Ross Perot, the Texas billionaire and proto-Trump, who shocked the political establishment in the 1992 election when he mounted an unexpectedly disruptive challenge against George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton.
Much like Perot, Kennedy is a human headline. This week, he called Biden “a much worse threat to democracy” than Trump, after surmising that the president’s attempts to pressure social media platforms into taking down posts promoting misinformation about COVID was more egregious than Trump’s role in the January 6 insurrection, which he has also condemned. The Kennedys, ever since JFK started turning sentences with clever rhetorical inversions, have been renowned for their inspirational grandiloquence.
Robert F. Kennedy serves up something more modern-day: incendiary memes and attention-grabbing soundbites.
Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, and Joe Biden. Credit: AP and YouTube
The 70-year-old, who is running as an independent, obviously benefits from name recognition. “Kennedy”, despite all the revelations about the dark side of Camelot, remains a potent political brand. However, a key to understanding his popularity is the simple fact that his surname isn’t either Trump or Biden. The re-run of the 2020 election is proving one of the most unpopular match-ups in US history. Kennedy is attracting a cohort of voters dubbed the double-haters, who don’t want to give either the 45th or 46th president four more years in the White House.
What makes his presence so intriguing is not just his ancestral bloodline. It is where he sits in the political spectrum. Robert F. Kennedy is where the American left meets the American right. He’s a clickbait candidate for fellow anti-vaxxers and conspiracy peddlers. RFK Jr has amplified the specious claim, for example, that COVID vaccines were developed to control people through microchips. Over a three-decade career as an environmental lawyer, however, he has also built a reputation as a green crusader, which appeals to progressives.
In assessing his potential impact, initially it was thought Kennedy would siphon votes from Trump. After all, prominent right-wing opinion formers, such as Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon, have given him airtime, and he even appeared on Infowars with Alex Jones, that septic sinkhole of misinformation. Last year, Bannon suggested RFK Jr should become Trump’s vice-presidential running mate.
Recently, however, polls have suggested he is drawing more Democratic support, especially among the young. In December, a poll showed him getting a staggering 40 per cent of voters aged between 18 and 34, and leading both Biden and Trump among voters under the age of 45. The appearance of youthfulness and masculinity has long been part of the Kennedy family’s mystique, and a workout video of this muscly septuagenarian pumping iron and grinding out push-ups, which he posted on social media, almost instantly went viral. Young men, who inhabit the “manosphere” online, have become some of his most admiring bros.
Democrats, of course, are still traumatised by the 2000 election, when the consumer advocate Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the presidency against George W. Bush. In Florida alone, where Bush’s official winning margin was just 537 votes, Nader received 97,488 votes. Nationally, Nader polled just 2.7 per cent of the vote. Yet that was more than enough to act as a spoiler for Al Gore.
Robert Kennedy is presently averaging close to 10 per cent. As election day approaches, support for third-party candidates often dwindles. But in a close election, where the outcome could be determined by shifts of a few thousand votes in a handful of key states, Kennedy will unquestionably be a major factor.
There are obstacles in his way. The Kennedy family, who remain staunchly loyal to their fellow Irish-American Joe Biden, have ostracised him. At a St Patrick’s Day event at the White House, they formed what looked like a shamrock guard around Biden. The mechanics of US democracy also threaten to hurl a spanner in the works. So far, RFK has gathered enough signatures to qualify for the ballot in just one state, Utah, although that number will doubtless grow.
Democrats are hoping that when Kennedy faces tougher media scrutiny, and some of his offbeat views became more widely known, his appeal will fade. Yet that’s an optimistic take on the current state of US politics. It ignores that Kennedy’s popularity is but another reminder of how the fringe has folded into the mainstream.
Just witness the continued strength of Donald Trump, the frontrunner in the presidential race. Posting a video showing images of a hog-tied Joe Biden painted on the back of a pick-up truck barely registered on the Richter scale of Trumpian scandal.
In nobler times, the Kennedys personified America’s best self: the country’s dynamism, glamour, rationality, ambition and promise of immigrant success. These days, though, the USA seems otherworldly rather than exceptional. So much for passing the torch to a new generation. Robert Kennedy offers proof that even political aristocrats can morph into populist flame-throwers.
Nick Bryant, a former BBC Washington correspondent, is the author of the upcoming book, The Forever War: America’s Unending Conflict with Itself.
It's RFK Jr.'s week of backpedaling.
RFK Jr. repeats, and then retracts, long-debunked claim that January 6 rioters ‘carried no weapons’
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/politics/fact-check-rfk-jr-january-6-weapons/index.html
Red Pill strikes again. Once upon a time I use to read the "manosphere" and they love bodybuilding types & pick up artists. The 3 most influential members of that movement were the 3 Rs, Roissy, Rollo Tomasi & RooshV. Most of them disappeared by 2018-2019 but they were all very influential in the Red Pill movement (aka The Manosphere).
My mistake, you are correct. From your writings here you would fall under what the MAGA types call a RINO. Someone who believes in traditional GOP values.
Yeah, any Republican who dislikes Donald Trump is considered to be a RINO...a derogatory term for disloyal Republicans. I believe it's a term that became famous by Trump and his supporters.
In reality, I've been more (longer) a Republican than Trump considering Trump came from Perot's Reform party.
Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987, switched to the Reform Party in 1999, the Democratic Party in 2001, and back to the Republican Party in 2009...Trump is a flip-flopper.
Yet, I've heard many of us refer to as Moderate Conservatives while growing up in Kentucky (military family)...voters are typically highly educated, affluent, socially moderate, or liberal, strong connection to the military and often Never Trump.
Right-of-Center voters in the political spectrum (e.g. Nikki Haley and her supporters)
My old man was a big Nixon & Reagan guy. Old man, grandfather, and great-grandfather...all military veterans & Catholics would roll over in their graves if they saw what the GOP has become today and the creation of MAGA after the Trump infection.
Most of the Catholics that I know do not want a Trump or Biden...they'll most likely do a Republican write-in but will take Biden if it is the only way to prevent Trump's return back to the Oval Office.
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Well, there it is: RFK Jr.'s New York state director flat-out admits that her number one priority is ensuring that Joe Biden does not win re-election, and voting for her candidate is the best way to make sure that happens.
RFK Jr. New York campaign official says her ‘No. 1 priority’ is preventing a Biden victory
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/politics/rfk-jr-new-york-biden-trump/index.html
RFK Jr. New York campaign official says her ‘No. 1 priority’ is preventing a Biden victory
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/politics/rfk-jr-new-york-biden-trump/index.html
She should consult with the campaign managers of Nikki Haley to find out how they're doing it to Trump by still getting 15% to 30% of the Republican vote while Haley is no longer running for the nominee.
Hopefully, Haley's supporters will write-in her name in the 2024 Presidential Election considering Trump is still attacking them for being disloyal.
Funny too because Trump is a flip-flopper...
Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987, switched to the Reform Party in 1999, the Democratic Party in 2001, and back to the Republican Party in 2009.
pot calling the kettle black
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