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rightwingers. the train is leaving the station.
- Thread starter Free Thinker
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Quote from vhehn:
see that speck way off in the distance? that is the train leaving you behind. it is at the 9200 mile marker today. you wanted no part of helping fix whats wrong with this country.
imagine how it will go in the next election if the market recovers, the economy is getting better, we get a good health care plan and we are out of iraq. what do you think your chances are of gaining power in the legislature?
obama has made some mistakes. he is too soft on wall street and corporate greed. his health care plan is too complicated making it easy to demigog. he is at least stepping up and confronting long over due problems.
I am on that train until it derails.
and as far as the right wing causing him problems, he is doing just fine messing it up by himself.
Quote from drjekyllus:
Since we have Vhehn and FloydLandis being extremely bullish we know exactly what the dumb money is doing. Go short.
Given that the capitalization of the S&P 500 has increased by $2.7 TRILLION DOLLARS since the March 9th low . . . and you haven't made a dime, I think it's pretty clear that
Dr. Jerk-Off is the DUMB money.
Quote from vhehn:
see that speck way off in the distance? that is the train leaving you behind. it is at the 9200 mile marker today. you wanted no part of helping fix whats wrong with this country.
imagine how it will go in the next election if the market recovers, the economy is getting better, we get a good health care plan and we are out of iraq. what do you think your chances are of gaining power in the legislature?
obama has made some mistakes. he is too soft on wall street and corporate greed. his health care plan is too complicated making it easy to demigog. he is at least stepping up and confronting long over due problems.
In one way, I agree with you.
This nation deserves what is coming under the Obama watch.
Wait, however, for a little while before crowning the Democrats with perpetual rule. There are just too many convergences around the 2012 time frame (which will occur whether it was Obama or McCain ).
The first nail in the coffin will be when the Bush tax cuts expire, to be met with the tax increases from Obama to pay for the "global warming cash grab" and socialized medicine, soda tax, etc., etc..
The second nail will be the inevitable surge of price inflation, and the third nail will be the lack of energy resources available once the world economy starts to uptick. Crude will be trading back at the highs.
So, I think we will have a jobless recovery, working people will feel the higher tax bite, gas will be back at $4.75 @ gal., and their soda pops will cost $2.50 per can, all around the 2012 election cycle.
Mr. Obama will be toast if my scenario is correct, a bad memory like Mr. Carter.
Quote from Landis82:
Given that the capitalization of the S&P 500 has increased by $2.7 TRILLION DOLLARS since the March 9th low . . . and you haven't made a dime, I think it's pretty clear that
Dr. Jerk-Off is the DUMB money.
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Quote from bugscoe:
Viagra may give you an erection lasting up to four hours but it's clear in your case, it does nothing to solve your premature ejaculation.
Yeah, I forgot that you wouldn't know how to PROFITABLY trade a 1300 point rally in the Dow Jones over the course of 5 months.
My mistake, for thinking that you actually know how to TRADE.
Quote from Barth Vader:
The first nail in the coffin will be when the Bush tax cuts expire, to be met with the tax increases from Obama to pay for the "global warming cash grab" and socialized medicine, soda tax, etc., etc..
For some reason, you fail to mention that BOTH the "Cap & Trade" legislation as well as the "Health Care" bill that is making its way through Congress have been totally "gutted".
In case you didn't know, the Federal Govt. is giving away 85% of the carbon credits in the legislation that came out of the House. That pretty much "guts" what "Cap & Trade" was ideally intended to do; which was an "auction" of the carbon credits.
The same can be said of Health Care.
Gutted and not even close to being what Obama or other Dems were originally seeking.
But hey, thanks for all the misinformation and
"fear-mongering". Where would the GOP and the likes of Sarah Palin and the ET neo-cons be with out it?
Quote from Landis82:
For some reason, you fail to mention that BOTH the "Cap & Trade" legislation as well as the "Health Care" bill that is making its way through Congress have been totally "gutted".
In case you didn't know, the Federal Govt. is giving away 85% of the carbon credits in the legislation that came out of the House. That pretty much "guts" what "Cap & Trade" was ideally intended to do; which was an "auction" of the carbon credits.
The same can be said of Health Care.
Gutted and not even close to being what Obama or other Dems were originally seeking.
But hey, thanks for all the misinformation and
"fear-mongering". Where would the GOP and the likes of Sarah Palin and the ET neo-cons be with out it?
Hello Landis,
I know that you are more politically savy than your remarks imply!
HR 3200 would raise taxes on the highest earning individuals / households in the country. The graduated tax would begin at an income of $350,000 for couples and $280,000 for individuals. That has not been "gutted". I will eat my hat if this passes and that tax rate does not start to trickle down, as ALL "just on the wealthy" tax schemes tend to do. (Remember the statements associated with the implementation of the income tax ?)
HR 3200 also defines a "small business" as having a MAXIMUM payroll of $250,000 to be exempted from the employer mandates. How will those costs be passed on ? This provision has not been "gutted".
The cost per average family for HR 3200 is estimated to be $12,192.79 ! How will this be paid for ? By direct or hidden taxes, of course.
Regarding "Cap and Tax", I would tend to agree with your comments, HOWEVER, would you tend to agree that with a politician, where there is a tax / revenue opportunity, there WILL be a way found to make it work !