Right wing extremists more of a threat than Muslim extremists..

clacy · Dec 2, 2015

Intersting timing of this study considering the San Bernadino tragedy which appears to be Islamic terrorism

wjk · Dec 2, 2015

clacy said:
... which appears to be Islamic terrorism

We'll know if it was Islamic...or not. Depends on if the word goes out regarding how to report it from the powers that be.

AAAintheBeltway · Dec 2, 2015

fhl said:
Not content to only lie about the muslim cheering, the media is also lying about the planned parenthood videos.

CBS News calls Planned Parenthood videos 'now discredited'
Twitchy‎ - 1 day ago
CBS News casually refers to undercover Planned Parenthood videos as 'now discredited'.

No, they're not discredited. The context of the videos was straightforward and they were directly on point. The media is one giant lying machine.

I found this a bit jarring as well. Our resident fact checker piezoe snarked that they were grossly misleading etc. What is so misleading about recording someone's own words? Is there any doubt they are harvesting organs from aborted babies?

trendlover · Dec 2, 2015

fhl said:
No freddie. After Trump made the comment, the media went into overdrive claiming there were no muslims celebrating.

Fact-checking Trump's claim that thousands in New Jersey cheered when World Trade Center tumbled
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/

washington post says all the claims of muslims celebrating were either debunked or unproven. And now that they've been caught telling this lie, they are only recently changing their story to the "there weren't thousands" version.

If there is any lying going on, it's the media who is guilty of the much bigger lie.

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I am not ("Freddie"). You want to believe that is true. Ask Baron to prove I am in NJ posting.

The only lie is Trump saying "thousands" he see celebrate.

ETcallhome · Dec 3, 2015

I missed the news today. How many were killed by right wing extremists today?

OddTrader · Jan 14, 2016

piezoe said:
Human life begins at conception of course. But a human embryo is not a human being any more than a chicken embryo is a chicken. Repeat this to yourself over and over all day long, and it is possible that eventually it will sink in and you'll have that Ah'Ha moment!

Good points!

A hen must prepare a setting combining with willingness and enough time in order to incubate her eggs.

Not only her willingness involved is important, but also her feeling/attachment that is created/generated after a minimum time spent with the eggs for her desire wanting the eggs to become chicken.

There should be a statistical data abut the psychology of a pregnancy regarding how much minimum/average time a potential mother would initially created/generated her feeling/attachment for the fertilized human egg. As a general guideline of standard time.

There should be also a psychological test to confirm an individual's feeling/attachment before this standard time, to ensure sometimes reconsideration should be carefully made by a pregnant lady.

Just 2 cents!

piezoe said:
Here is my opinion:

"But of course a fertilized human egg is not a human being any more than a fertilized chicken egg is a chicken. But today we actually have millions of people who call themselves human beings and think that a fertilized human egg is a human being. Why is that? It is quite obviously because some crackpot religious leader, like the Pope, has told them that a fertilized human egg is a human being. It is pretty much the same group of people that think that Mary became pregnant by shacking up with God, or by parthenogenesis, whichever came first. Either way, it is a pretty damn good miracle if you ask me."

I stand by the above which is my opinion regarding religious leaders preaching that an embryo is a human being.

I am not interested in opening a debate on the subject of abortion. That's been debated and the Court has ruled. I am content with the court's view .

Since you are an educated person, you'll have no difficulty recognizing that the statement "a fertilized human egg is not a human being any more than a fertilized chicken egg is a chicken" and the statement "human life begins at conception" are NOT Incompatible statements.
It is the confusion caused by religious leaders in both their own muddled minds and the minds of their followers when they say, "human life begins at conception" , that has created the mess.

piezoe · Jan 14, 2016

AAAintheBeltway said:
I found this a bit jarring as well. Our resident fact checker piezoe snarked that they were grossly misleading etc. What is so misleading about recording someone's own words? Is there any doubt they are harvesting organs from aborted babies?

The problem isn't in the recording, it's in the editing that follows.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." -- Buddha

Ricter · Jan 14, 2016

AAAintheBeltway said:
I found this a bit jarring as well. Our resident fact checker piezoe snarked that they were grossly misleading etc. What is so misleading about recording someone's own words? Is there any doubt they are harvesting organs from aborted babies?

You just said, "I are aborted". (I left a few words out.)

AAAintheBeltway · Jan 14, 2016

piezoe said:
The problem isn't in the recording, it's in the editing that follows.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." -- Buddha

I really want to understand this. What was so misleading? The things that shocked people was one, the fact that they were routinely harvesting organs from babies and getting paid for it, and two, the utter callousness with which they discussed the sordid business. One could imagine more moral anguish from guys running a junk yard and debating whether to part out a classic car.

Of course you can edit a clip to make someone sound stupid, like the media did with Sarah Palin, or to impute views to them unfairly, but I fail to see how that applies here.

piezoe · Jan 14, 2016

AAAintheBeltway said:
I really want to understand this. What was so misleading? The things that shocked people was one, the fact that they were routinely harvesting organs from babies and getting paid for it, and two, the utter callousness with which they discussed the sordid business. One could imagine more moral anguish from guys running a junk yard and debating whether to part out a classic car.

Of course you can edit a clip to make someone sound stupid, like the media did with Sarah Palin, or to impute views to them unfairly, but I fail to see how that applies here.

The media should have been given a prize for accomplishing the seemingly impossible, by making Sarah Palin appear to be even more stupid than she appears to be with no editing whatsoever.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/planned-parenthood-videos/
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...nthood-files-suit-against-group-behind-videos
http://www.thenation.com/article/ho...renthood-videos-degraded-the-abortion-debate/