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Cuddles said:
Holy fuck you're full of shit. Why would the Arab world be dumb enough to come up w/such a braindead idea as a port, especially as you share a border w/Gaza?:
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Once again, let's outline the harsh reality. The only issue causing trucks in Egypt to not enter Gaza at the crossing is the wholesale government corruption in Egypt. As outlined earlier a bribe of $5000 per truck must be paid for every truck entering Gaza, here are two pertinent articles again.

War on Gaza: Charity says Egypt intelligence-linked firm charging $5,000 to get aid over border
EXCLUSIVE: NGO provides MEE with first testimony that indicates Egyptian officials are profiting from humanitarian situation in Gaza
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-egypt-charity-intelligence-linked-firm-aid

An international charity with extensive experience in providing emergency aid in wars, famines and earthquakes throughout the Middle East and in Afghanistan is being forced to pay $5,000 a truck to a company linked to Egypt’s General Intelligence Service (GIS) to get aid into Gaza.

Charity slams Egypt-linked ‘bribery’ as $5,000 demand per aid truck hampers Gaza help
https://dohanews.co/charity-slams-e...-5000-demand-per-aid-truck-hampers-gaza-help/



Egypt is a completely untrustworthy partner in getting aid into Gaza. They don't care about the suffering of the Palestinians whatsoever and simply want to extract bribe money. The need for a Gaza port is driven by the complete failure of Egypt to support large-scale aid deliveries across the land border.
 
gwb-trading said:
Once again, let's outline the harsh reality. The only issue causing trucks in Egypt to not enter Gaza at the crossing is the wholesale government corruption in Egypt. As outlined earlier a bribe of $5000 per truck must be paid for every truck entering Gaza, here are two pertinent articles again.

War on Gaza: Charity says Egypt intelligence-linked firm charging $5,000 to get aid over border
EXCLUSIVE: NGO provides MEE with first testimony that indicates Egyptian officials are profiting from humanitarian situation in Gaza
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-egypt-charity-intelligence-linked-firm-aid

An international charity with extensive experience in providing emergency aid in wars, famines and earthquakes throughout the Middle East and in Afghanistan is being forced to pay $5,000 a truck to a company linked to Egypt’s General Intelligence Service (GIS) to get aid into Gaza.

Charity slams Egypt-linked ‘bribery’ as $5,000 demand per aid truck hampers Gaza help
https://dohanews.co/charity-slams-e...-5000-demand-per-aid-truck-hampers-gaza-help/



Egypt is a completely untrustworthy partner in getting aid into Gaza. They don't care about the suffering of the Palestinians whatsoever and simply want to extract bribe money. The need for a Gaza port is driven by the complete failure of Egypt to support large-scale aid deliveries across the land border.
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Just when my opinion of you couldn't go any lower, you reach down below scum level.

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Just when my opinion of you couldn't go any lower, you reach down below scum level.

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Once again let's circle back to your statement made in in post #2430 of this thread which I was responding to --

"Why would the Arab world be dumb enough to come up w/such a braindead idea as a port, especially as you share a border w/Gaza?"

Yes, as noted. Egypt is in full control of the land border crossing at Rafah, Israel does not control this particular crossing. A majority of the civilian population in Gaza is now huddled near Rafah -- which makes the Rafah crossing the optimal location to send in food aid trucks.

So why are there long lines of aid trucks lined up at a border crossing controlled by Egypt -- where Egypt could easily let them in? Well, the answer is that it is due to Egyptian government corruption -- where they are demanding $5000 per food truck in bribes in order to allow them to cross the border into Gaza.

A port is proposed because getting food aid into Gaza via land crossings is not working and food drops from planes cannot provide anywhere near the necessary level of food supplies. The primary issue stopping aid at the Egyptian border is corruption; the issues with food aid stopped at the Israel border involves multiple issues -- including Hamas stating they will kill anyone who coordinates with Israel to allow aid into Gaza.

Not a single Arab country is stepping up to provide any assistance with building, operating, and controlling security at the proposed port. At this point, a port looks to be a U.S. only operation which would only serve to make the U.S. military a direct target of Hamas.

All of this -- including the total corruption at the Egyptian border stopping the flow of food aid trucks and failure to step up to provide an alternative (i.e. a port) -- just serves to underline that Arab governments do not give two hoots about the civilians in Gaza.

I have outlined multiple times previously the importance of getting food aid into Gaza for the civilians. Certainly (as I have outlined) there are issues at the Israeli crossings including the families of hostages attempting to block aid from crossings. However I will note that by tonnage the majority of the food aid in the past four weeks have crossed in from Israel and a dwindling portion from Egypt. Overall food aid truck deliveries have been decreasing since February which is a significant issue for the civilians in Gaza.

At this point, only Hamas is holding up an internationally-brokered ceasefire agreement in Gaza. Nations such as Qatar are so frustrated with Hamas that they will evict their leaders if Hamas does not agree to the ceasefire. A ceasefire would allow the supplies of food to quickly ramp up -- Hamas is basically responsible for the starvation in Gaza at this point by refusing to agree to a ceasefire.


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gwb-trading said:
Once again let's circle back to your statement made in in post #2430 of this thread which I was responding to --

"Why would the Arab world be dumb enough to come up w/such a braindead idea as a port, especially as you share a border w/Gaza?"

Yes, as noted. Egypt is in full control of the land border crossing at Rafah, Israel does not control this particular crossing. A majority of the civilian population in Gaza is now huddled near Rafah -- which makes the Rafah crossing the optimal location to send in food aid trucks.

So why are there long lines of aid trucks lined up at a border crossing controlled by Egypt -- where Egypt could easily let them in? Well, the answer is that it is due to Egyptian government corruption -- where they are demanding $5000 per food truck in bribes in order to allow them to cross the border into Gaza.

A port is proposed because getting food aid into Gaza via land crossings is not working and food drops from planes cannot provide anywhere near the necessary level of food supplies. The primary issue stopping aid at the Egyptian border is corruption; the issues with food aid stopped at the Israel border involves multiple issues -- including Hamas stating they will kill anyone who coordinates with Israel to allow aid into Gaza.

Not a single Arab country is stepping up to provide any assistance with building, operating, and controlling security at the proposed port. At this point, a port looks to be a U.S. only operation which would only serve to make the U.S. military a direct target of Hamas.

All of this -- including the total corruption at the Egyptian border stopping the flow of food aid trucks and failure to step up to provide an alternative (i.e. a port) -- just serves to underline that Arab governments do not give two hoots about the civilians in Gaza.

I have outlined multiple times previously the importance of getting food aid into Gaza for the civilians. Certainly (as I have outlined) there are issues at the Israeli crossings including the families of hostages attempting to block aid from crossings. However I will note that by tonnage the majority of the food aid in the past four weeks have crossed in from Israel and a dwindling portion from Egypt. Overall food aid truck deliveries have been decreasing since February which is a significant issue for the civilians in Gaza.

At this point, only Hamas is holding up an internationally-brokered ceasefire agreement in Gaza. Nations such as Qatar are so frustrated with Hamas that they will evict their leaders if Hamas does not agree to the ceasefire. A ceasefire would allow the supplies of food to quickly ramp up -- Hamas is basically responsible for the starvation in Gaza at this point by refusing to agree to a ceasefire.


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Israel's starving civilians and ghouls like you are assisting them by whitewashing the obvious.

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Joe Biden and his NATO buddies Macron, Susnak and Scholz trying very hard to get into a Third World War with Russia. These fools will get what they want soon enough. Vladimir Putin is not joking and will not toy with them. Wait till the body bags of NATO troops start coming back home. Russia lost millions of troops in World War 2 fighting the Germans in World War 2. NATO will whine and cry once, the death toll runs into the thousands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World...an scholars put the,its allies during the war.
 
smallfil said:
Joe Biden and his NATO buddies Macron, Susnak and Scholz trying very hard to get into a Third World War with Russia. These fools will get what they want soon enough. Vladimir Putin is not joking and will not toy with them. Wait till the body bags of NATO troops start coming back home. Russia lost millions of troops in World War 2 fighting the Germans in World War 2. NATO will whine and cry once, the death toll runs into the thousands.

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Want to know where the Russian death toll is running into the hundreds of thousands? In Ukraine. If we want to stop a wider conflict involving the U.S. and NATO directly then we need to fund Ukraine in order to stop further aggression by the Russian dictator Putin.

NATO: More than 350,000 Russian soldiers killed or injured in Ukraine
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-more-350-000-russian-164438920.html
 
Cuddles said:
Palestinians don't have weeks. I'm starting to think this is just how Israel get s a free port in Gaza on our dime. Us could use amphibious vehicles if they needed to offload aid. Unless the point is not to deliver aid but to ship out people.
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et voila...

Netanyahu in the foreign affairs committee:
We are looking into how to distribute the aid in Gaza by non-local entities because Hamas failed the attempts to distribute it through local entities. Private companies are also being investigated. As far as the State of Israel is concerned, there is no obstacle for the Gazans to leave, maybe even the port they are building could be used for this, but there are no countries in the world that are ready to receive them.

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