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Cuddles said:
Egypt can't even get the Israelis to let trucks in. They start landing ships on Gaza and they'll be fired on, not by Hamas but the IDF.
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A joint deployment of aid by the U.N. will solve the problem regardless of Israel's reluctance to allow it to occur.

It's worked in the past...U.N. and Red Cross deployed together.

Regardless, that beach is already a mess and becoming more dangerous for civilians as each day passes because the people know where aid will most likely arrive again.


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Cuddles said:
yeah....about that:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766674205209153957
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...while Israel/Hamas are fighting.

That means when they arrive and fighting is still occurring...that Pier (most like a Trident Pier) will not be built. U.S. soldiers and civilian contractors will remain on the ship and out at sea...not on that beach with Hamas having high ground.

Yet, there's always the possibility that a ceasefire will be called and then they begin construction of the Pier but fighting breaks out again. Hopefully, that doesn't happen because it could cause a stampede by civilians...injuring or killing civilians, U.S. soldiers, and contract workers.

Crowd stampeding has always been a problematic issue especially when civilians are starving for food, water, and medical supplies because it makes it extremely difficult to evacuate wounded civilians who have been waiting desperately for emergency medical care.

I once saw a family accidentally crush to death their own child when they rushed a Red Cross truck with medical supplies.

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wrbtrader said:
...while Israel/Hamas are fighting.

That means when they arrive and fighting is still occurring...that Pier (most like a Trident Pier) will not be built. U.S. soldiers and civilian contractors will remain on ship and out at sea.

Yet, there's always the possibility that a ceasefire will be called and then they begin construction of the Pier but fighting breaks out again. Hopefully, that doesn't happen because it could cause a stampede by civilians...injuring or killing civilians, U.S. soldiers, and contract workers.

Crowd stampeding has always been a problematic issue especially when civilians are starving for food, water, and medical supplies because it makes it extremely difficult to evacuate wounded civilians who have been waiting desperately for emergency medical care.

I once saw a family accidentally crush to death their own child when they rushed a Red Cross truck with medical supplies.

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problem is the fighting is pretty much over....has been since like the end of Oct. This conflict was always going to be fought w/isolated skirmishes given Israel's firepower superiority.

Mercor said:
How soon before a missile from Gaza welcomes the American pier.
Will this end up like another Afghan withdraw failure
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or false flagged?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
 
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Cuddles said:
problem is the fighting is pretty much over....has been since like the end of Oct. This conflict was always going to be fought w/isolated skirmishes given Israel's firepower superiority.


or false flagged?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
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Fighting has been going on and off since the 1940s and will continue for the next 100 years...civilians getting caught in the middle of these idiots trying to kill each other.

In the meantime, civilians will always be desperate for food, water, and medical supplies from the outside world to help them.



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wrbtrader said:
Fighting has been going on and off since the 1940s and will continue for the next 100 years...civilians getting caught in the middle of these idiots trying to kill each other.

In the meantime, civilians will always be desperate for food, water, and medical supplies from the outside world to help them.


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FWIW: I'm not opposed at using troops in humanitarian efforts. We'd likely be needing troops to force aid through Israel's land checkpoints too if we're unwilling to exert aid/political leverage. Why risk our troops instead of using leverage is beyond me though.
 
Cuddles said:
FWIW: I'm not opposed at using troops in humanitarian efforts. We'd likely be needing troops to force aid through Israel's land checkpoints too if we're unwilling to exert aid/political leverage. Why risk our troops instead of using leverage is beyond me though.
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I've seen governments, including the U.S., become frustrated when "leverage" or "political talks" gets nowhere and the civilian casualty numbers continue to grow.

They then will use troops but not in harm's way to get around the land checkpoints...example as an airdrop.​

If the area has a sea/ocean...governments will use that too. The trick is to do it in a way and at a time when the possibility of a civilian stampede has been minimized as much as possible.

Further, a lot of people do not realize that looting by armed civilians is a strong possibility that the airdrop aid is confiscated and not able to reach civilians in need. The armed groups will then try to profit by selling the aid to the civilians or using bartering...

such as requesting for you to let your wife/daughter stay with them for a while and you can then have the food/water/medical supplies or give them your passports if you have any and they will give you the food/water/medical supplies.​

It's a cruel world. :(

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