Ridin' with Biden
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Stein will be on most if not all ballots.Shes the backup if West is not on ballots.I wish West would have stayed with The Green Party so the Prog vote could have stayed united under one candidate.
After Biden fucked Blacks and police reform advcates(And will lose millions of votes for doing so)Dr West is fighting for the cause.
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‘Elderly man with a poor memory’: Investigation finds Biden wilfully retained classified documents
By Farrah Tomazin Updated February 9, 2024
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...iminal-charges-warranted-20240209-p5f3lt.html
Washington: Joe Biden wilfully retained and disclosed classified information about national security and foreign policy matters after he left his role as vice president to Barack Obama but will not be charged for his actions.
After a year-long investigation, a Justice Department report has revealed that the US president mishandled classified information as a private citizen, such as documents regarding Middle East policy and notebooks with entries he’d made about matters “implicating sensitive sources and methods.”
US President Joe Biden will not face charges over the documents.Credit: Bloomberg
The report, by Special Counsel Ben Hur, found that Biden’s conduct presented “serious risks” given the sensitive nature of the material found. But he also noted that addressing those risks with criminal charges “is not the proper remedy here” - and cited Biden’s age and memory as part of the reason.
“We conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr Biden’s guilt beyond reasonable doubt,” the report says.
“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr Biden would likely present himself to a jury as he did during our interview of him: as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.”
The investigation began last year after classified documents from Biden’s time as vice president were found at an old office space and also at his home in Wilmington, Delaware.
This image, contained in the report from special counsel Robert Hur, shows a damaged box where classified documents were found in Biden’s garage. Credit: AP
Hur was appointed against the backdrop of a separate investigation into the mishandling of classified documents involving Donald Trump, who has since been charged by Special Counsel Jack Smith and is awaiting trial.
But unlike Trump, who sought to hide and hold on to the documents at his Mar-a-lago estate in Florida, Biden’s representatives contacted the National Archives office to return the documents as soon as lawyers discovered them.
However, while Hur did not recommend charges, his 388-page report nonetheless paints a damning and detailed picture of Biden’s actions.
It is also likely to blunt the Democrats’ attack against Trump’s handling of classified documents and will also heighten concerns that Biden is too old for another term in the White House.
An image in the report showing Biden’s cluttered garage.Credit: AP
“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began,” it says.
“He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him.”
Alex Pfeiffer, communications director for Make America Great Again Inc, said Biden was clearly “unfit to lead this nation”
“If you’re too senile to stand trial, then you’re too senile to be president,” he added.
Trump also hit out at the outcome, saying it was another example of America’s “two-tiered” system of justice.
However, attorneys for the President rejected the Special Ccounsel’s characterisation of the president’s memory, saying it was neither “accurate or appropriate.”
The investigation was based on over 100 witness interviews. Part of its findings centre on Biden’s handling of classified documents about Afghanistan — namely, the Obama administration’s decision to send additional troops there.
According to the report, Biden retained those documents in his Delaware home after he left office as vice president. He also kept materials documenting his opposition to the troop surge, including a 2009 classified handwritten memo to Obama.
Photographs included in the report showed some of the classified Afghanistan documents stored in a worn cardboard box stored in his garage with other items.
Biden could not have been prosecuted as a sitting president, but Hur’s report states that he would not recommend charges against Biden regardless.
“We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president,” the report said.
Biden said in a statement that he was “pleased” the special counsel had “reached the conclusion I believed all along they would reach — that there would be no charges brought in this case and the matter is now closed.”
‘Elderly man with a poor memory’: Investigation finds Biden wilfully retained classified documents
By Farrah Tomazin Updated February 9, 2024
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...iminal-charges-warranted-20240209-p5f3lt.html
Washington: Joe Biden wilfully retained and disclosed classified information about national security and foreign policy matters after he left his role as vice president to Barack Obama but will not be charged for his actions.
After a year-long investigation, a Justice Department report has revealed that the US president mishandled classified information as a private citizen, such as documents regarding Middle East policy and notebooks with entries he’d made about matters “implicating sensitive sources and methods.”
US President Joe Biden will not face charges over the documents.Credit: Bloomberg
The report, by Special Counsel Ben Hur, found that Biden’s conduct presented “serious risks” given the sensitive nature of the material found. But he also noted that addressing those risks with criminal charges “is not the proper remedy here” - and cited Biden’s age and memory as part of the reason.
“We conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr Biden’s guilt beyond reasonable doubt,” the report says.
“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr Biden would likely present himself to a jury as he did during our interview of him: as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.”
The investigation began last year after classified documents from Biden’s time as vice president were found at an old office space and also at his home in Wilmington, Delaware.
This image, contained in the report from special counsel Robert Hur, shows a damaged box where classified documents were found in Biden’s garage. Credit: AP
Hur was appointed against the backdrop of a separate investigation into the mishandling of classified documents involving Donald Trump, who has since been charged by Special Counsel Jack Smith and is awaiting trial.
But unlike Trump, who sought to hide and hold on to the documents at his Mar-a-lago estate in Florida, Biden’s representatives contacted the National Archives office to return the documents as soon as lawyers discovered them.
However, while Hur did not recommend charges, his 388-page report nonetheless paints a damning and detailed picture of Biden’s actions.
It is also likely to blunt the Democrats’ attack against Trump’s handling of classified documents and will also heighten concerns that Biden is too old for another term in the White House.
An image in the report showing Biden’s cluttered garage.Credit: AP
“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began,” it says.
“He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him.”
Alex Pfeiffer, communications director for Make America Great Again Inc, said Biden was clearly “unfit to lead this nation”
“If you’re too senile to stand trial, then you’re too senile to be president,” he added.
Trump also hit out at the outcome, saying it was another example of America’s “two-tiered” system of justice.
However, attorneys for the President rejected the Special Ccounsel’s characterisation of the president’s memory, saying it was neither “accurate or appropriate.”
The investigation was based on over 100 witness interviews. Part of its findings centre on Biden’s handling of classified documents about Afghanistan — namely, the Obama administration’s decision to send additional troops there.
According to the report, Biden retained those documents in his Delaware home after he left office as vice president. He also kept materials documenting his opposition to the troop surge, including a 2009 classified handwritten memo to Obama.
Photographs included in the report showed some of the classified Afghanistan documents stored in a worn cardboard box stored in his garage with other items.
Biden could not have been prosecuted as a sitting president, but Hur’s report states that he would not recommend charges against Biden regardless.
“We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president,” the report said.
Biden said in a statement that he was “pleased” the special counsel had “reached the conclusion I believed all along they would reach — that there would be no charges brought in this case and the matter is now closed.”
What are you waiting for?
Nice One, Dumb Ass.
“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” it said. “Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”
“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013 — when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’),” the report said.
US Votes 2024
‘Elderly man with a poor memory’: Investigation finds Biden wilfully retained classified documents
By Farrah Tomazin Updated February 9, 2024
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...iminal-charges-warranted-20240209-p5f3lt.html
Washington: Joe Biden wilfully retained and disclosed classified information about national security and foreign policy matters after he left his role as vice president to Barack Obama but will not be charged for his actions.
After a year-long investigation, a Justice Department report has revealed that the US president mishandled classified information as a private citizen, such as documents regarding Middle East policy and notebooks with entries he’d made about matters “implicating sensitive sources and methods.”
US President Joe Biden will not face charges over the documents.Credit: Bloomberg
The report, by Special Counsel Ben Hur, found that Biden’s conduct presented “serious risks” given the sensitive nature of the material found. But he also noted that addressing those risks with criminal charges “is not the proper remedy here” - and cited Biden’s age and memory as part of the reason.
“We conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr Biden’s guilt beyond reasonable doubt,” the report says.
“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr Biden would likely present himself to a jury as he did during our interview of him: as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.”
The investigation began last year after classified documents from Biden’s time as vice president were found at an old office space and also at his home in Wilmington, Delaware.
This image, contained in the report from special counsel Robert Hur, shows a damaged box where classified documents were found in Biden’s garage. Credit: AP
Hur was appointed against the backdrop of a separate investigation into the mishandling of classified documents involving Donald Trump, who has since been charged by Special Counsel Jack Smith and is awaiting trial.
But unlike Trump, who sought to hide and hold on to the documents at his Mar-a-lago estate in Florida, Biden’s representatives contacted the National Archives office to return the documents as soon as lawyers discovered them.
However, while Hur did not recommend charges, his 388-page report nonetheless paints a damning and detailed picture of Biden’s actions.
It is also likely to blunt the Democrats’ attack against Trump’s handling of classified documents and will also heighten concerns that Biden is too old for another term in the White House.
An image in the report showing Biden’s cluttered garage.Credit: AP
“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began,” it says.
“He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him.”
Alex Pfeiffer, communications director for Make America Great Again Inc, said Biden was clearly “unfit to lead this nation”
“If you’re too senile to stand trial, then you’re too senile to be president,” he added.
Trump also hit out at the outcome, saying it was another example of America’s “two-tiered” system of justice.
However, attorneys for the President rejected the Special Ccounsel’s characterisation of the president’s memory, saying it was neither “accurate or appropriate.”
The investigation was based on over 100 witness interviews. Part of its findings centre on Biden’s handling of classified documents about Afghanistan — namely, the Obama administration’s decision to send additional troops there.
According to the report, Biden retained those documents in his Delaware home after he left office as vice president. He also kept materials documenting his opposition to the troop surge, including a 2009 classified handwritten memo to Obama.
Photographs included in the report showed some of the classified Afghanistan documents stored in a worn cardboard box stored in his garage with other items.
Biden could not have been prosecuted as a sitting president, but Hur’s report states that he would not recommend charges against Biden regardless.
“We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president,” the report said.
Biden said in a statement that he was “pleased” the special counsel had “reached the conclusion I believed all along they would reach — that there would be no charges brought in this case and the matter is now closed.”
Biden is not the only one that "no charges". Other Presidents, a vice president, a secretary of state, and attorney generals going back to President Carter have mishandled classified documents (stored them at their home or storage facility that was not secured)....including President Obama.
Others also have no charges except for Trump because he's the only one who LIED and stated he did not have them.
Next, after the lie was quickly exposed...he said they were not classified. Next, he changed his story and then said as a former president it was his right to have them. Next, his lawyers and he gave back "some" of the classified documents and continued to keep the remainder classified documents...resulting in the now infamous search warrant (raid) and seizure of the remaining documents that were being stored at Mar-a-Largo.
The Oval Office administration is not the only office with former employees of the government bringing home classified documents.
I remember when I was in grade school, a next-door neighbor died a few months after he retired as a Colonel...my old man was sent to another state to retrieve classified documents that the spouse (widow) had taken with her when the family moved out of state.
The difference, she did not LIE and say she didn't have the locked briefcase, she did not give back "some" of the documents, and she did protect the highly sensitive info in a hidden home safe until my old man retrieved it.
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Biden is not the only one that "no charges". Other Presidents, a vice president, a secretary of state, and attorney generals going back to President Carter have mishandled classified documents (stored them at their home or storage facility that was not secured)....including President Obama.
Others also have no charges except for Trump because he's the only one who LIED and stated he did not have them.
Next, after the lie was quickly exposed...he said they were not classified. Next, he changed his story and then said as a former president it was his right to have them. Next, his lawyers and he gave back "some" of the classified documents and continued to keep the remainder classified documents...resulting in the now infamous search warrant (raid) and seizure of the remaining documents that were being stored at Mar-a-Largo.
The Oval Office administration is not the only office with former employees of the government bringing home classified documents.
I remember when I was in grade school, a next-door neighbor died a few months after he retired as a Colonel...my old man was sent to another state to retrieve classified documents that the spouse (widow) had taken with her when the family moved out of state.
The difference, she did not LIE and say she didn't have the locked briefcase, she did not give back "some" of the documents, and she did protect the highly sensitive info in a hidden home safe until my old man retrieved it.
wrbtrader
For someone who claims he is not a Biden supporter you do defend him a lot
For someone who claims he is not a Biden supporter you do defend him a lot
Please do not LIE.
I never claimed I was not a Biden supporter. I specifically stated I voted for Biden in 2020 because I disliked Trump although I sometimes use the phrase "hate Trump" including giving specific reasons why I disliked Trump (e.g. his attacks and disrespect of our military veterans going back when he was a Reform party member) when I'm a Republican that strongly dislike/sadden after what he's done to our Republican party...
Making it one of the most dysfunctional management of our Congress that we've hit historical lows for getting any thing done in Congress to help the American people...as evident by the most recent Immigration bill fiasco.
In addition, Biden has not done me any wrong. If did (his policies) did something wrong to my family or myself...I will publicly disclose what occurred and would not vote for him.
In contrast, I do have a home north of Chicago in the suburb of Evanston and my mother is a one-time resident of the Trump Tower in Chicago.
She no longer lives there because she's a proud wife of a veteran and saw first hand the mistreatment of our veteran families by one of Trump businesses.
Thus, I have a personal connection to seeing how he/his business operates.
With that said, I will repeat, I'm a supporter of Liz Cheney, and crossing my fingers that she jumps in as an independent because, as stated multiple times to you, 2024 is probably the best opportunity for an Independent to sneak into the White House as President. Yet, I'm not going to hold my breadth for Liz Cheney to jump in as an Independent candidate for the Oval Office.
Liz Cheney is my #1 choice (preferred choice) to get rid of Trump. Biden is my #2 choice (backup) to get rid of Trump because he's done it before...easily, Prosecutors of the criminal cases is my #3 choice and Haley is my #4 choice but only because Trump is irritated by her, his MAGA base doesn't like her because she keeps donors from him that they want/need, and his wannabe supporters (ET talking heads)...
That dislike Biden whilethet gladly ignoring that Trump is a rapist, talks about the left as vermin, caters to White Supremacist for their vote, continues with his BIG LIE that the election was stolen, sat & watch happily when the insurrectionists were yelling HANG MIKE PENCE and then later stated on National TV that "we love you" to the insurrectionists, bragged on his way out the door about making Afghanistan difficult for Biden, one of Trump's last acts as President was refusing to sign off on the removal of toxic lead pipes from Urban communities (the asshole wanted minorities to be hurt), corrupt business dealings involving lying about the value of his properties to gain investors & loans, constant attacks on women, his history of attacks on military heroes (those with awards for bravery), his mishandling of the Pandemic, his disenfranchisement efforts against minorities by encouraging his political allies to gerrymander the political districts, his vote support from those the believe the South Will Rise Again in reference to their confederacy (unrecognized breakaway republic...traitors to the United States of America), and his employment of family members into high visible positions within his administration (dictators do that but its OK with most Americans...a country that gained its freedom from a dictator)...
I can go on and on but you should be able to now remember why I do not want Trump in the Oval Office again. If not, that's on you.
Back to Biden, what does he do recently about his own mishandling of classified documents...he's upset about the commentary from the special counsel report about "his memory problems". Don't all elderly people get upset when people talk about their memory problems (rhetorical question & sarcasm).
P.S. I do publicly and here at the forum give the Trump/Pence administration credit for Operation Warp Speed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
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So, cooperation excuses the crime? Next time a criminal, any criminal committing any crime can just cooperate and walk. Got it. Seems party affiliation will have some sway in the decision though. Joe gets the Hillary pass. Yeah, they're guilty AF. Yeah, they got a heads up and time to prepare before any real investigation began. Yeah, the media establishment receives talking points and circles the wagons. But they were nice about things after getting the wink and nod of, don't sweat it, we got you covered.