Ridin' with Biden

[Cuddles]

Here it is: If you need healthcare, go to a healthcare professional and pay them for services rendered from the money you've saved by working hard.

so a lead pill because voting conservative made healthcare untenable and now you gotta off yourself to stop the pain?

 

[Tony Stark]

Here it is: If you need healthcare, go to a healthcare professional and pay them for services rendered from the money you've saved by working hard.

So a person who makes 30,000 a year has to find a way to pay 200,000 for cancer treatments? That does sound pretty republican.

 

[Tony Stark]

Here it is: If you need healthcare, go to a healthcare professional and pay them for services rendered from the money you've saved by working hard.

How does the avg american do that?

 

[BeautifulStranger]

Clearly I don't understand your point. Perhaps my response to Tony will address it.

 

[BeautifulStranger]

So a person who makes 30,000 a year has to find a way to pay 200,000 for cancer treatments? That does sound pretty republican.

Cancer treatments, and pharmaceuticals for that matter, would not be so expensive if there were no third party paying for it. How do US healthcare costs compare with other countries, again?

Cancer is much more likely to hit those of retirement age than someone in a entry level job. Besides, even if a 20's something got cancer and had to pay for it out of pocket, even using your inflated figure of $200k, they could get a loan like many do with college tuition, and pay it off over time.

While relatively rare circumstances can pull at heart strings, basing a system on those circumstances is inefficient, increasing costs for all manifesting in lower discretionary spending and lower quality of healthcare.

Health insurance companies get paid, doctors get paid, politicians get paid, healthcare facilities get paid, pharmaceutical companies get paid, civil attorneys get paid. An inefficient healthcare system increases costs, yet everyone associated with it, gets paid. Who ultimately pays these costs? Even if we are not physically writing a check for own own or someone else's healthcare, we are paying for it. Still believe there is such a thing as a free lunch for tax paying working class people?

Could it be your point is healthcare is actually a free lunch for those who don't contribute to society, a group that is a critical part of the Democrat voting base?

 

[BeautifulStranger]

How does the avg american do that?

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Working class Americans pay for their own and someone else's health insurance directly or indirectly. These people either pay inflated healthcare insurance premiums, effectively accept less wages if their employer pays for healthcare, and effectively pay higher taxes than otherwise necessary if the government did not have to subsidize healthcare for the lazy or irresponsible, generally speaking.

 

[Tony Stark]

Cancer treatments, and pharmaceuticals for that matter, would not be so expensive if there were no third party paying for it. How do US healthcare costs compare with other countries, again?

Cancer is much more likely to hit those of retirement age than someone in a entry level job. Besides, even if a 20's something got cancer and had to pay for it out of pocket, even using your inflated figure of $200k, they could get a loan like many do with college tuition, and pay it off over time.

While relatively rare circumstances can pull at heart strings, basing a system on those circumstances is inefficient, increasing costs for all manifesting in lower discretionary spending and lower quality of healthcare.

Health insurance companies get paid, doctors get paid, politicians get paid, healthcare facilities get paid, pharmaceutical companies get paid, civil attorneys get paid. An inefficient healthcare system increases costs, yet everyone associated with it, gets paid. Who ultimately pays these costs? Even if we are not physically writing a check for own own or someone else's healthcare, we are paying for it. Still believe there is such a thing as a free lunch for tax paying working class people?

Could it be your point is healthcare is actually a free lunch for those who don't contribute to society, a group that is a critical part of the Democrat voting base?

Who is going to give a sick currently unemployed person a 200,000 unsecured loan?

 

[Tony Stark]

Cancer treatments, and pharmaceuticals for that matter, would not be so expensive if there were no third party paying for it. How do US healthcare costs compare with other countries, again?

Cancer is much more likely to hit those of retirement age than someone in a entry level job. Besides, even if a 20's something got cancer and had to pay for it out of pocket, even using your inflated figure of $200k, they could get a loan like many do with college tuition, and pay it off over time.

While relatively rare circumstances can pull at heart strings, basing a system on those circumstances is inefficient, increasing costs for all manifesting in lower discretionary spending and lower quality of healthcare.

Health insurance companies get paid, doctors get paid, politicians get paid, healthcare facilities get paid, pharmaceutical companies get paid, civil attorneys get paid. An inefficient healthcare system increases costs, yet everyone associated with it, gets paid. Who ultimately pays these costs? Even if we are not physically writing a check for own own or someone else's healthcare, we are paying for it. Still believe there is such a thing as a free lunch for tax paying working class people?

Could it be your point is healthcare is actually a free lunch for those who don't contribute to society, a group that is a critical part of the Democrat voting base?

Why hasn't The GOP overhauled the system to fix all that you are complaining about?They've have all 3 branches plenty of times.

 

[Tony Stark]

Cancer is much more likely to hit those of retirement age than someone in a entry level job. Besides, even if a 20's something got cancer and had to pay for it out of pocket, even using your inflated figure of $200k, they could get a loan like many do with college tuition, and pay it off over time.

If 150k is average,200k isn't inflated.The most recent person I know fighting cancer has been billed over 250k.Thankfully they had Obamacare because previously they wouldn't have been able to get health insurance due to pre existing conditions.

 

[El OchoCinco]

yes...cancer patients with no.insurance can.easily get a loan of $200,000 to pay off medical expenses...

wtf?????