Ridin' with Biden

[Tony Stark]

They must be smart enough to realize the dangers of fascism given they're first in line and can't afford virtue signaling from a place of privilege.

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They are the dumb ones.As long as Dems like Biden see they can fuck over blacks and still get their vote they will keep fucking over them.The fact that Obama and Clinton had over 90% support from blacks while only 45% want Biden for a 2nd term shows major progress though.Hopefully more blacks start waking up like us progressives and show they will stay home or vote Green Party if they betray them.

Biden still has an edge in 2024 because of abortion imo and hes going to need it because black voter turnout will be lowest it has been in decades imo.

 

[kmgilroy89]

They are the dumb ones.As long as Dems like Biden see they can fuck over blacks and still get their vote they will keep fucking over them.The fact that Obama and Clinton had over 90% support from blacks while only 45% want Biden for a 2nd term shows major progress though.Hopefully more blacks start waking up like us progressives and show they will stay home or vote Green Party if they betray them.

Biden still has an edge in 2024 because of abortion imo and hes going to need it because black voter turnout will be lowest it has been in decades imo.

Hasn't the black vote mostly always been older black women with very few young black men voting anyways? I bet the old black women will still show up for Biden. The Latino shift might be of more importance.

 

[Tony Stark]

Hasn't the black vote mostly always been older black women with very few young black men voting anyways? I bet the old black women will still show up for Biden. The Latino shift might be of more importance.

Older black women and to a lessor extent older black men from what I see in polls and black friends and associates.Basically older blacks are sticking with Biden and young blacks are saying fuck him.

Older blacks tend to stick with The Dem no matter what because they see it and have always seen it as self defense against racist conservatives and they know racism from conservatives far more than the younger generation of blacks do.Its understandable that blacks that lived through George Wallace,Storm Thurmand,Jesse Helms etc vote Dem no matter what.

 

[Cuddles]

They are the dumb ones.As long as Dems like Biden see they can fuck over blacks and still get their vote they will keep fucking over them.The fact that Obama and Clinton had over 90% support from blacks while only 45% want Biden for a 2nd term shows major progress though.Hopefully more blacks start waking up like us progressives and show they will stay home or vote Green Party if they betray them.

Biden still has an edge in 2024 because of abortion imo and hes going to need it because black voter turnout will be lowest it has been in decades imo.

Older black women and to a lessor extent older black men from what I see in polls and black friends and associates.Basically older blacks are sticking with Biden and young blacks are saying fuck him.

Older blacks tend to stick with The Dem no matter what because they see it and have always seen it as self defense against racist conservatives and they know racism from conservatives far more than the younger generation of blacks do.Its understandable that blacks that lived through George Wallace,Storm Thurmand etc vote Dem no matter what.

so are they dumb or are they old and wise and see the alternative as racists in power?

 

[Tony Stark]

so are they dumb or are they old and wise and see the alternative as racists in power?

Dumb but understandably so in the case of the old ones.We've reached the point where blacks can vote for more than just self defense against racist conservatives.

 

[Cuddles]

Dumb but understandably so in the case of the old ones.We've reached the point where blacks can vote for more than just self defense against racist conservatives.

lol, they can't even vote to vote under republicans, let alone vote for more than self defense.

 

[Tony Stark]

lol, they can't even vote to vote under republicans, let alone vote for more than self defense.

As Warnock showed while more inconvenient they can beat conservative voter suppression laws. When voting for Dems like Biden they get Dems that wont fight hard enough for voting rights laws.

 

[Cuddles]

As Warnock showed while more inconvenient they can beat conservative voter suppression laws. When voting for Dems like Biden they get Dems that wont fight hard enough for voting rights laws.

you mean voting right laws to counter GOP voter suppression?

In any case, I've covered all of Cenk's concerns in the "Biden fucking up already" months, some even years ago. In fact, I recall telling you voting rights was one of my main concern to be addressed if Biden won (which he didn't).

 

[kmgilroy89]

Older black women and to a lessor extent older black men from what I see in polls and black friends and associates.Basically older blacks are sticking with Biden and young blacks are saying fuck him.

Older blacks tend to stick with The Dem no matter what because they see it and have always seen it as self defense against racist conservatives and they know racism from conservatives far more than the younger generation of blacks do.Its understandable that blacks that lived through George Wallace,Storm Thurmand,Jesse Helms etc vote Dem no matter what.

There’s a lot of people I know my age who are white, educated, not super political, and make low six figures that are voting Democrat, because in their eyes the GOP has become a complete joke/the stupid party. Some of them voted for Romney and moderate Republicans in the past, because they didn't want government to get too large, but Trump became a bridge too far. They're pro-choice, believe in climate change (though not really sure what to do about it), and have always been for gay marriage. They might not agree with the trans community on all their issues, but they're not obsessed with it like the modern GOP is. They're not obsessed with guns and don't understand why people need AR-15's. They aren't concerned about the illegal immigrants taking over the country or the "browning of America", but they do want criminals locked up and something to be done with the homeless causing chaos. They're not obsessed with racial issues, but realize the system isn't equitable and think bad cops should be held accountable. However, they're not going to support something like reparations. They aren't begging for tax cuts, but aren't looking to pay more either. They are concerned about the debt unlike politicians in Washington. They generally believe in taking personal responsibility and not relying on the government for everything they need. Their college was already paid for and don't want to pay for the college of anybody, except maybe their own kids someday. The idea of the government running all of healthcare would scare the shit out of them. They got vaccinated and generally followed the mask mandates/social distancing rules without bitching a lot about them. While not everybody agrees on every issue and how to handle everything, the majority of my friends from my hometown can be boxed into this category. If the Democrats went too far to the left they could be lost.

 

[Tony Stark]

you mean voting right laws to counter GOP voter suppression?

In any case, I've covered all of Cenk's concerns in the "Biden fucking up already" months, some even years ago. In fact, I recall telling you voting rights was one of my main concern to be addressed if Biden won (which he didn't).

Republicans had enough of moderate republicans and made the decision in 2008 or 2010 that would stay home rather than vote for moderate republicans.Its time for Dems to do the same.