Ridin' with Biden

Not publicly. I don't believe Obama was ever against it. He expressed views in favor of it in 1996. I think he was a coward on the issue out of pragmatism (even though I doubt it would have cost him the election in 2008 as views were moderating then). My two biggest criticisms of Obama were this and his unwillingness to take out ISIS earlier than he was. I believe he did this, because he promised to get out of Iraq and didn't want to break that promise even though ISIS was clearly a change in the game. Fighting ISIS was about counterterrorism, not about installing democracy.

It was Obamas plan that ultimately took out ISIS,without another major US Middle East invasion that the American people did not want.

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It was Obamas plan that ultimately took out ISIS,without another major US Middle East invasion that the American people did not want.

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If you remember, Obama let ISIS grow into a major caliphate before doing anything. I believe he did this, because he didn't want to be seen as going back into Iraq. He let politics make his decisions rather than sound judgement. Many others were asking him to get involved much sooner.
 
If you remember, Obama let ISIS grow into a major caliphate before doing anything. I believe he did this, because he didn't want to be seen as going back into Iraq. He let politics make his decisions rather than sound judgement. Many others were asking him to get involved much sooner.


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I guess my third criticism was "if you like your plan you can keep your plan" was a giant lie. He knew by implementing Obamacare, many of the plans wouldn't exist anymore. I now buy 364-day long short-term catastrophic health plans, because regular insurance is ridiculously expensive even as a 33 year old who's been to the doctor's like once in the past 8 years (where I walked in to get a prescription for a swimmer's ear infection). I get that a lot of good came from Obamacare, but he wasn't honest about the downsides.
 
I guess my third criticism was "if you like your plan you can keep your plan" was a giant lie. He knew by implementing Obamacare, many of the plans wouldn't exist anymore. I now buy 364-day long short-term catastrophic health plans, because regular insurance is ridiculously expensive even as a 33 year old who's been to the doctor's like once in the past 8 years (where I walked in to get a prescription for a swimmer's ear infection). I get that a lot of good came from Obamacare, but he wasn't honest about the downsides.


There was nothing in Obamacare that forced any plans to end.If an employer ended a plan or a doctor didn't want to accept a plan your issue is with your doctor,employer,ins company etc
 
Americans are never for war until it's too late. As a leader you need to protect the country, not follow polls on this issue. ISIS was recruiting Americans and radicalizing them over the internet. However, he was even hesitant to use drone strikes at first.


How many Americans did Isis kill on US soil?
 
There was nothing in Obamacare that forced any plans to end.If an employer ended a plan or a doctor didn't want to accept a plan your issue is with your doctor,employer,ins company etc
It forced a shit ton of plans to end. Never had insurance through the employer. I basically had annual catastrophic insurance through Golden Rule that was continuously renewed. They ended everything, because they wouldn't be able to provide that plan and still take on customers with pre-existing conditions at those prices.
 
How many Americans did Isis kill on US soil?
Did you want to wait for that? They took over like 1/3 of Syria and 40% of Iraq. It was a giant jihadist training ground hiding in plain site to our intelligence agencies that never should have taken off in the first place if we were on our toes.
 
I guess my third criticism was "if you like your plan you can keep your plan" was a giant lie. He knew by implementing Obamacare, many of the plans wouldn't exist anymore. I now buy 364-day long short-term catastrophic health plans, because regular insurance is ridiculously expensive even as a 33 year old who's been to the doctor's like once in the past 8 years (where I walked in to get a prescription for a swimmer's ear infection). I get that a lot of good came from Obamacare, but he wasn't honest about the downsides.

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