I think everyone was that been trading as long as I have, they were the start of forums and there was another one called CTCR? I think? I have bought much through the years, I use to spend like $10k a year to see how other people's stuff was and then friends sharing with me of crap they bought, and 90% of it is crap. OMG, so much optimized crap, LOL I remember someone was selling something for $25k and next year you could buy it for cost of postage stamp, LOL. Very few things were any good, Daycare by Vilar Kelly and Duffy-although he might of been 90s, Robert Miner, Precter's newsletter...good old days, markets were better back then. Crap like Essex, LOL you had to buy the data from their black box, you put on a trade today and if it lost, tomorrow it didn't show it was a trade, ROFLMAO