Richard Dawkins, Famed Atheist, Supports Free Bibles In Schools

Ah the fundamentalist comes out again.

So because you can not move a mountain right now... Jesus lied.

When Ed Seykota in Market Wizards said, "you get what you want out of the markets"... did he lie? Or was it a brilliant statement, more easily understood by those who make the journey.

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i can wittle it down even further. just read these verses and ask yourself. did jesus lie?


1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)



2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)



3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)



4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)



5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)



6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14 NAB)



7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7 NAB)



8) It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16 NAB)



9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24 NAB)
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Quote from jem:

Ah the fundamentalist comes out again.

So because you can not move a mountain right now... Jesus lied.


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a scientific analysis of the statement by open minded observers would have to conclude that yes, if jesus said those words he lied. or was just bsing people like preachers do today.
of course, science being what it is you are welcome to run all the tests and present all the evidence you want to prove our conclusions wrong. let us know when you have something.

"Doesn't it seem odd that the "evidence for the existence of god" is completely hidden from the greatest human minds who spend their professional lives exploring how the universe functions, yet it is perfectly clear to uneducated simpletons who have access to internet-linked terminals? i wonder if it bothers the religious that atheists have brilliant physicists, biologists, mathematicians arguing for the atheist side, while they have, really, no one of credible intelligence."
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

a scientific analysis of the statement by open minded observers would have to conclude that yes, if jesus said those words he lied. or was just bsing people like preachers do today.
of course, science being what it is you are welcome to run all the tests and present all the evidence you want to prove our conclusions wrong. let us know when you have something.

"Doesn't it seem odd that the "evidence for the existence of god" is completely hidden from the greatest human minds who spend their professional lives exploring how the universe functions, yet it is perfectly clear to uneducated simpletons who have access to internet-linked terminals? i wonder if it bothers the religious that atheists have brilliant physicists, biologists, mathematicians arguing for the atheist side, while they have, really, no one of credible intelligence."
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In your "scientific analysis" have you factored in the understanding that time is an illusion? That time might no be linear. That time might be in part dependent on the way your brain works.
That time started after the big bang.

2nd. There is evidence of God. (many top scientists state our universe appears fine tuned) and there is evidence this could not have happened by random chance. (There was not enough time for life to evolve from non life hear on earth.)

3. Not, that this is not a failed appeal to authority by you, but I will play your game.

There are Nobel Prize winners who believe.
http://nobelists.net/
 
Quote from jem:

In your "scientific analysis" have you factored in the understanding that time is an illusion? That time might no be linear. That time might be in part dependent on the way your brain works.
That time only seems linear to those operating in this universe in which time began after the big bang.
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great job rationalizing why jesus lied in his so called book. do the sunday school children give you funny looks when you try to sell them nonsense?
 
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2nd. There is evidence of God. (many top scientists state our universe appears fine tuned) and there is evidence this could not have happened by random chance. (There was not enough time for life to evolve from non life hear on earth.)
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a thinking person with minimal scientific knowledge would understand that even if it were true that the universe were fine tuned and there was not enough time, both not true by the way, it would not be evidence for a god.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

great job rationalizing why jesus lied in his so called book. do the sunday school children give you funny looks when you try to sell them nonsense?
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No wonder why you went from fundamentalist believer to fundamentalist hater. Your binary approach thinks the bible should be read like a math primer.
 
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a thinking person with minimal scientific knowledge would understand that even if it were true that the universe were fine tuned and there was not enough time, both not true by the way, it would not be evidence for a god.
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This is your binary mind at work.
It can be evidence... but not necessarily proof.
I have tried to explain this to you many times.
But you just prefer your binary thinking
 
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do the sunday school children give you funny looks when you try to sell them nonsense?
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:cool: ....hmnnnnnn, I see what the problem is here.....I can't believe I missed it...nevertheless......

Atheists are deprived of teaching Sunday school. They have no one to teach. awwwwwww, must hurt...... but no problem...Nutmeg to the rescue.......



Welcome to Atheist Sunday school

(Athiest teacher) "good morning students"

(student raises hand..) "Why are we here?"

(A teacher) "Well todays lesson"... "there is no God"

(class) "Yeah, can we go home now?"

"No"

"Why?"

"I want to expalin why there is no god"

(class) "Who cares."

(teacher) "I do"

(class) "Bye"

Teacher "You bunch of heathens, get back in your seat"

(class) "Nah, Nah, What are going to do, tell Jesus on me" "Am I going to hell?"

ruff..rufff...ruffff....:D
 
Quote from nutmeg:

:cool: ....hmnnnnnn, I see what the problem is here.....I can't believe I missed it...nevertheless......

They have no one to teach.
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you might want to think about this statement.
 
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