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Richard Clarke - Against All Enemies
- Thread starter waggie945
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Quote from Turok:
Ok, Cuz has referred to "proven" lies by Clarke.
Max kindly reponded to my question with a link to Fox News (with material I had already read, but thanks again Max)
Since Cuz will only laugh at my question I have no way of knowing if the link that Max provided is the same material as Cuz refers to, but IF IT IS, THERE IS NOTHING PROVEN THERE.
Hey, perhaps he lied...I don't yet know and it would sure as hell influence my feelings about his credibility. However, having Bill Frist say it's so doesn't make it so.
Far from "proven" so far.
JB
Come on man why the hell would they want to declassify it wasn't a lie.
Quote from ARogueTrader:
People don't seem to understand the difference between someone's opinion, and a statement of fact.
Bob says: "I think Sally is pretty."
One year later Bob says:
"I think Sally is ugly."
Is the second statement a lie?
Clarke says: "I think the adminstration did a good job."
One year later:
"I think the administration did a lousy job"
Is the second statment a lie?
It is foolish to think Clarke could be convicted of perjury based on his comments.
The joke is that the republicrats blame the democans of politicizing the issue. What they hell are they doing?
You're right they bash each other, but to use your analogy I couldn't give credibility to anyone who is that fickle
Quote from max401:
Please... And have it come back and haunt them at some unknown time? Give me a break.
LOL...Haunt them HOW? You seem to forget that the most Americans memories are about 30 minutes long when it comes to political garbage.
Even the wording the Frist uses in the accusation has got back doors in it a mile wide...
"Mr. Clarke has told two entirely different stories under oath,"
That is a statement of OPINION...how the hell is that going to "haunt" anyone?
As I said before...maybe he lied, but just because Frist says two different stories are being told does not a lie prove.
I say PROVE IT or don't say it's "proven"
JB
Fickle?
Was Bush fickle to move from an anti-nation building position pre presidency to the current nation building efforts in Iraq?
Or is it a matter of re-thinking the situation?
The point is that you can have an opinion at one time, and change the opinion at a later time without having lied with the second opinion which is different or even opposite from the first opinion.
That is why any attempt to convict Clarke on perjury would fail, because he was stating opinion, not a fact.
Was Bush fickle to move from an anti-nation building position pre presidency to the current nation building efforts in Iraq?
Or is it a matter of re-thinking the situation?
The point is that you can have an opinion at one time, and change the opinion at a later time without having lied with the second opinion which is different or even opposite from the first opinion.
That is why any attempt to convict Clarke on perjury would fail, because he was stating opinion, not a fact.
Quote from cuz:
You're right they bash each other, but to use your analogy I couldn't give credibility to anyone who is that fickle