Revelation is starting to make some sense..

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I mean, how does a butterfly do it? A tiny computer with eyes and chemical sensors and wings and an engine, weighs a few grams, navigates and flies thousands of miles. Can zip through a thick forest without hitting things. Amazing. That natural forces and time alone can design such a thing boggles the mind and makes even the most hardened atheist wonder.
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Just a doubt, or a gross underestimation in the capability of chemical reaction combined with evolution. I'm sure atheists marvel at the wonder of those without adding in unnecessary help from an imaginary sky Pixie.
 
Quote from stu:

... already refuted and debunked a hundred times in a hundred threads.

If you knew anything about it, you'd soon realize both yourself and the author should understand how natural selection removes those false notions of so called chance.

You have an insanity in endlessly repeating the same nonsense from your cache of cut&pastes expecting a different outcome other than the fact they are wrong.
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that is troll comedy...

yeah... you debunked a MIT paper which quoted and summarized the work of many of the very best minds in the field.

natural selection... that is a good one.
natural selection worked on non living things to turn them into living things.

That might be your best troll yet.
 
I have to highlight Stu's troll...


Real quote from Stu...

"There is plenty of science showing life from non life".
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...&pagenumber=124

Stroll then trolls this one out...




Stu caught trolling:

..my comment..
"there is plenty of science to show how life can come from non life"

..you altered to say..
"there is plenty of science to show how life came from non life".

..that is not paraphrasing.
You can't tell the difference can you?. You're an idiot Jem, trying to make an idiots argument.
 
Quote from stu:

... already refuted and debunked a hundred times in a hundred threads.

You have an insanity in endlessly repeating the same nonsense from your cache of cut&pastes expecting a different outcome other than the fact they are wrong.
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+1

jem's whacked
 
Quote from stu:

Just a doubt, or a gross underestimation in the capability of chemical reaction combined with evolution. I'm sure atheists marvel at the wonder of those without adding in unnecessary help from an imaginary sky Pixie.
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Absolutely. They marvel even more knowing the true marvel of it. Without the ascribing it to the magic wand of a God the incredible nature of Nature is truly appreciated.

A hint of the creativity of nature can be seen in a spiral galaxy.

Through simple physics and time, a seemingly impossible structure arises from chaos. A barred spiral galaxy seems almost as impossible as a butterfly.


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Quote from futurecurrents:

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Absolutely. They marvel even more knowing the true marvel of it. Without the ascribing it to the magic wand of a God the incredible nature of Nature is truly appreciated.

A hint of the creativity of nature can be seen in a spiral galaxy.

Through simple physics and time, a seemingly impossible structure arises from chaos. A barred spiral galaxy seems almost as impossible as a butterfly.


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It is beautiful... but is the physics so simple? Is it random?

Have you wondered why gravity does not cause the galaxy to crunch in on itself... or dark energy cause it to fly apart... before it had time to form?

Do you know how many physical constants interact to allow that to happen and you to be there to observe it?

Or do you like to just believe it is simple and random?
 
Quote from jem:

It is beautiful... but is the physics so simple? Is it random?

Have you wondered why gravity does not cause the galaxy to crunch in on itself... or dark energy cause it to fly apart... before it had time to form?

Do you know how many physical constants interact to allow that to happen and you to be there to observe it?

Or do you like to just believe it is simple and random?
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...Or do you like to just believe the reality of natural processes compatible with the laws of physics can't create the universe, whilst an imaginary make-believe angry old giant sky pixie can.
 
I do not need to question that given infinite tries and infinite time... there is a very small chance... random chance could create a universe finely tuned for life like ours...

I just understand that there is no evidence we have or had infinite other universes and infinite time.

All we have knowledge of is our one universe.
And there is almost no chance we got this tuned by random chance if there is only one universe. I choose to believe it is more likely there was a Creator rather than almost infinite other universe...

Perhaps you choose to have faith in infinite other universes or some yet to be discovered theory of everthing... and hold out hope those discoveries will rule out a creator.

Keep hoping as your road really takes big faith.
 
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