Reuters poll of U.S. public: Dem "sweep" better for U.S. stocks

Quote from eminitrader007:

I don't know how you define Socialism, but the $700 billion rescue package seemed like socialism to me. The progressive tax rates that we have was implemented by Teddy Roosevelt who is McCain's hero. We provide student loans to people and that is a form of socialism too. Farm subsidies are another form of socialism that is championed by the Republicans.

We tried the Conservative method and are in this hole, it is time for a change. I'm not sure if the end result of this change wwill be better or worse but it is worth trying.

You're correct about Bush being a shit, of course. But under NObama's hand, it will be worse... ultimately a LOT worse... Study up on some world financial history. What's happening now in the USSA is not unique. In fact, it's the norm... has happened over and over again... just wasn't supposed to happen here.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

"... America ALREADY has tried Obamanomics. We did it with FDR and LBJ. To this day we're being crushed by the under funded entitlement liabilities of the New Deal and the Great Society.

Correct-a-FARKIN-mundo!!!

If the NObamabots had studied any world financial history at all, they'd be scared SHITLESS at the prospect of NObama getting hold of the wheel... :mad: :mad:
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

What did the market do after passage of the bailout? Stocks broke 30% on air. The bailout vote was passed by a majority of Dem's and opposed by a majority of House Repubs.

The market has been weak since the day the Dem majority entered Congress. Taxing corporate profits at a higher rate is not a bull item for stocks.

America ALREADY has tried Obamanomics. We did it with FDR and LBJ. To this day we're being crushed by the under funded entitlement liabilities of the New Deal and the Great Society.

Europe has a quasi-Socialist safety net, eh? What have THEIR markets done? Even worse than ours. Global investors are all thinking the same thing, "if even America-the unabashed home of laissez-faire market economy can become some socialist shitter then there's little help for Europe, South America or Asia."

There were enough Republicans that voted for the bailout and the bail-out was Paulson's idea, treasury secretary under Republican president. We know from the Clinton years that people do not stop innovating and investing just because the taxes are high. If the taxes are 100%, then there is no incentive to work hard but at 38%, it's no biggie. I'd rather see 38% taxes and a strong dollar than 0% and a worthless dollar. If we were to get rid of taxes then who'll pay for the police, the traffic lights and as such.
 
Since when do FEDERAL INCOME TAXES pay for MUNICIPAL services?

I don't want to write an essay here but the emerging trend will the fiscal failure of property tax dependant local governments-the institutions who provide us the actual services we NEED- while Big Brother in D.C. keeps right on ticking with his massive powers of taxation.

Secondly you can spin it however you want-yes the plan was proposed by a GOP administration-but the bailout was REJECTED by the GOP rank and file. Period.

And lastly this IS NOT the "Clinton years". Look at a chart. What were stocks doing before Clinton was elected? They were ALREADY in bull mode. Which way was Congress leaning? To the right! Clinton had Newt Gingrich in his way. Obama will have Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank sucking his wee-wee. Perhaps literally.....


Quote from eminitrader007:

There were enough Republicans that voted for the bailout and the bail-out was Paulson's idea, treasury secretary under Republican president. We know from the Clinton years that people do not stop innovating and investing just because the taxes are high. If the taxes are 100%, then there is no incentive to work hard but at 38%, it's no biggie. I'd rather see 38% taxes and a strong dollar than 0% and a worthless dollar. If we were to get rid of taxes then who'll pay for the police, the traffic lights and as such.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Since when do FEDERAL INCOME TAXES pay for MUNICIPAL services?

I don't want to write an essay here but the emerging trend will the fiscal failure of property tax dependant local governments-the institutions who provide us the actual services we NEED- while Big Brother in D.C. keeps right on ticking with his massive powers of taxation.

Secondly you can spin it however you want-yes the plan was proposed by a GOP administration-but the bailout was REJECTED by the GOP rank and file. Period.

And lastly this IS NOT the "Clinton years". Look at a chart. What were stocks doing before Clinton was elected? They were ALREADY in bull mode. Which way was Congress leaning? To the right! Clinton had Newt Gingrich in his way. Obama will have Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank sucking his wee-wee. Perhaps literally.....

Municipal services were just an example. What about military and defense? Republicans talk about fiscal resonsibility only when the other party is in power.

Do you think we are in a bull or a bear mode right now?
 
Quote from eminitrader007:

"... Republicans talk about fiscal resonsibility only when the other party is in power.

For the last 2 years, a DemoCrap Legislature rubber-stamped Bush's budget deficit.. and RepubliClown Legislature did the same before.

Both parties are guilty of deficit spending...
 
Quote from gnome:

For the last 2 years, a DemoCrap Legislature rubber-stamped Bush's budget deficit.. and RepubliClown Legislature did the same before.

Both parties are guilty of deficit spending...

What about the 4 years before that? At least with Democrats you know that they will take your money directly. Republicons will not take money from you directly but will print more money and make what you have worthless.
 
Quote from eminitrader007:

What about the 4 years before that? At least with Democrats you know that they will take your money directly. Republicons will not take money from you directly but will print more money and make what you have worthless.

No virtue in either..
 
Quote from gnome:

When NObama wins, I'd like to see a market crash... a market "thumbs down" to Socialism...

Have you forgetten already?

Taxpayers had to bail out PRIVATE banks. The military oil junta leader Bush made it so - citizens had not choice no vote they were never asked!

Taxpayers in the USA have to spend 50% of every tax dollar on no-bid contracts, wars, and "aid" to Israel.

IF that's not enough misery for you...read this quote.


The inherent vice of capitalism
is the unequal sharing of blessings;
the inherent virtue of socialism
is the equal sharing of miseries.

Sir Winston Churchill

 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

America ALREADY has tried Obamanomics. We did it with FDR and LBJ. To this day we're being crushed by the under funded entitlement liabilities of the New Deal and the Great Society

You're leaving the part where the period from FDR to post-LBJ included the world's greatest expansion of GDP. Between 1933 and 1970 tax rates were much, much higher than today, proving that higher taxes are not necessarily anti-job and anti-growth. When all is said and done, economic history will show, through cold hard numbers, that the Democratic hybrid capitalist-socialist economy outperforms the Reagan-Bush supply side economy.
 
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