Retired, 450k fun money, lets see what happens - SPY Options

Will I be successful and outperform the S&P 500?


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You should know stock market crashes don't happen often. The last major crash we had was last year during the height of the Covid scare. So what do you do in the meantime? Stay in cash? I don't think so.
No. for his eye, it would be easier and more effective just to sell covered calls right from the outset. It's what he plans to do anyway and he'd get better premium at the beginning when before the underlying drops and he gets assigned. The overall strategy as presented is sub-par.
 
OP any updates as of March 31 what your account balance is?

taking into account all the trading fees are you +/- what %

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The funny part of this thread is all the talkers talk week after week While the Wise Old Man keeps ringing the register. I love this thread.

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. - George S. Patton
 
could it be the OP is likely just paper trading or posts 'after the fact trades' of 'what could have been'!

since OP is following the S&P/SPY, I'm surprised the OP hasn't picked up posting option trades one day to expiry on the leveraged 3x ETF UPRO.
 
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I trade the 3x TQQQ, I do it because I understand it & because I bought my first round in July 2010.

https://www.splithistory.com/tqqq/

on the recent split 01/21/2021 a 2 for 1, at split price it was trading ~$100.

on that same day I looked at the ATM covered call expiring Jan 2022 was paying $29, that's 29% on the CC with a downside to $71.

some will say its crazy to trade 3x - are not suppose to be long term

does ^^^ make sense, is the strategy doable, are my numbers correct?

the added bonus is the trader could use the option premium to go back in buy more shares & option again or use multiples of $100k to do this type of trade.

even buying just 100 shares

there is also selling DITM long cc for a lesser % return on money at risk, yet this gives a better downside protection.

pre 2:1 split in 2021, on 2 Jan 2020 TQQQ was trading at ~$90.84, in March it hit a low of ~$35.50, ending 2020 at ~$181.80.
 
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As soon as the funds clear, I'll be running the wheel on SPY. I've never made one of these journals before... hell I've never even traded this strategy before but my goal is to outperform the S&P 500.

are you/will you outperform in 2021?

keep posting weekly YTD net after commissions

the table below the graph in the following link

https://www.macrotrends.net/2324/sp-500-historical-chart-data

The average stock market return is about 10% per year for nearly the last century. The S&P 500 is often considered the benchmark measure for annual stock market returns. Though 10% is the average stock market return, returns in any year are far from average.

Year-to-date return ~8.57%

5-year return 14.57%

10-year return 11.83%
 
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OP any updates as of March 31 what your account balance is?

taking into account all the trading fees are you +/- what %

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I unfortunately missed my trade on Thursday. I forgot Friday was a stock market holiday and my puts expired. Re-entered today for a small credit:

+$348
SOLD -12 SPY 100 (Weeklys) 9 APR 21 394 PUT @.29

My current net liq is $506,129.14, so after all commissions I'm up $50,011.02 = 10.96%. SPY closed today at 406.36, so I'm still underperforming the S&P 500 by 1.89%
 
No. for his eye, it would be easier and more effective just to sell covered calls right from the outset. It's what he plans to do anyway and he'd get better premium at the beginning when before the underlying drops and he gets assigned. The overall strategy as presented is sub-par.
It takes about 30 seconds per week so its not difficult or time consuming for me to trade the way that I am. As I've mentioned before, I don't need to withdraw the funds anytime soon. I'm definitely not saying this is the ideal strategy, but its an experiment I've been wanting to do for years and finally have the opportunity to do so. If I'm not successful, I'm 100% okay with it.
 
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