Retail Forex: A dirty little secret?

Quote from Hoi:

You are correct the EUR.USD only has 1 pip spread with IB. When you add the commission for a 100k forex-trade, you will even get a better result than the 1.5 pips of OANDA. (but for me the properties of an ECN-market for Forex is more important than the spread).

IB forex commission works out to 0.4 pips per RT (round trip) for trades over $125,000.

For any forex trade from $25,000 (the minimum allowed size) to $125,000, IB commission is a a flat $5.00 / RT. For the minimum $25,000 trade, that works out to 2 pips.

Therefore, for EUR/USD:

over $125,000 --> TEC (total effective cost) is 1.4 pips at IB and 1.5 pips at Oanda;

$25,000 - $125,000 --> TEC is from 1.4 to 3.0 at IB and 1.5 at Oanda;

under $25,000 --> TEC still 1.5 at Oanda, IB IDEAL Pro not an option; IB IDEAL has much wider spreads; CME currency futures on IB @$4.22 promotional rate; EUREX currency futures less for now.

In particular, for a 100K forex trade, it's a dead heat at 1.5 pips each, not "a better result".

However, IB EUR/USD spread is variable, not a fixed 1 pip, can be 2 or more at times. Oanda EUR/USD spread is fixed 1.5 pip, but can increase to anywhere from 1.8 to 3 pips for a few minutes around scheduled news release times and 10 on weekends (when IB is closed).

Having said all that, a number of key factors other than commissions ought to be considered as far more important for 99%+ of traders.
 
Yes, when I said "this particular type of ecn model" I was thinking of the $25,000 lot sizes, which makes IB competitive with the Mini-forex broker model. Currenex and Hotspot have much larger minimums.

Does anyone have details about MB trading and Coes and what is the minumum size lot?
 
MB @ 1 pip most of the day for eur and yen ... 2 at worst x flat $5 per 100k and you can trade as little 1=10k lot in the same 100k account. 100:1 leverage.
 
The IB Min is $25K?

Quote from roberk:

Yes, when I said "this particular type of ecn model" I was thinking of the $25,000 lot sizes, which makes IB competitive with the Mini-forex broker model. Currenex and Hotspot have much larger minimums.

Does anyone have details about MB trading and Coes and what is the minumum size lot?
 
Quote from katesdp:

The IB Min is $25K?

IB has no "mini's"....It has a minimum Order-level which is about $25.000, above that you can trade any amount until the Max Order-Level....so you can enter a trade for $26.789 if you want.
 
Quote from katesdp:

I meant IB's minimum account size for FX is $25K

No, no...you need (at least) $2000 to open an account, and can trade it as low as about $500 (which is the Margin for a $25.000 trade).
 
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