Retail.... 10% actually win?

schizo said:
These are the people who don't blow up their accounts in 90 days, so sez some folks. Yeah, 90 days. Go figure.
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MAYBE higher than that/ IF we count CoCo Puffs buys or HSY retail , +choc gifts LOL.:D:D
10%,a tithe, is a powerful number > better than 7.77.
I do glance @ 3 mo charts/prefer- like 3 years>>;
3 minute charts caught a good PSAR on DJT , but it was above $57.777 then / 3 mo charts:caution::caution::caution:.
NOta stock tip, but good HSY + WMT retail:cool::cool:
 
mikeriley said:
Dow index runs at specific times on a program. (Especially every Monday)

On certain times ES and NQ follow the Dow.

People would do more if they learned more. It takes more than just looking at screens.
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STRANGELY, Dow/DIA tends to outperform SPY,APR;
i've made money off that.
BUT its such an underperformer [50years] ;
I'm glad not do that less liquid this year. I have enough work with QQQ, SPY,spxl, SPXU,sds.............
Good daytrades on DJT when it was above $57.777.
DOW made some good moves 1928-1933, so not ruling it out LOL.
One excellant trader did daytrades on DOW+ great profits;
but i like whatt he said ,DOW is correlated to itself.
Great quote + trade quote
 
Does anyone have any real data to support this allegation? Why is the volume at record levels?
If you lost 90% of your base - wouldn't your trading volumes fall?


Retail investors' share of total trading volume rose from just above 10% in 2011 to over 22% in 2021, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. As of early 2023, the individual investor market reached $7.2 trillion in size, according to data from IBISWorld.Mar 10, 2023
 
Does anyone have any real data to support this allegation? Why is the volume at record levels?
If you lost 90% of your base - wouldn't your trading volumes fall?


Retail investors' share of total trading volume rose from just above 10% in 2011 to over 22% in 2021, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. As of early 2023, the individual investor market reached $7.2 trillion in size, according to data from IBISWorld.Mar 10, 2023
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The Global growth of retail investors/traders that continues to increase exponentially does not stop new trader margin calls. The base is growing, but that does not mean their bank account is growing. MARKETING the naive to this game is the culprit.
 
ajacobson said:
Still no evidence - if 90% lost would folks be flocking "exponentially?
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MOST likely 20win %.
80-20% rule is so common.
Even if 80% lose\ they got off easy\ABC news reported a rouge elephant kills an American, strangely, 79 or 80 year old women.
SPY had a >88 million volume day.
 
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mikeriley said:
The Global growth of retail investors/traders that continues to increase exponentially does not stop new trader margin calls. The base is growing, but that does not mean their bank account is growing. MARKETING the naive to this game is the culprit.
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There is quite a difference between the retail investor and the retail trader. For the most part I would think the retail investor is buy and hold. He/She may or may not out perform the index but for the most part they are probably building wealth.
The retail trader is probably losing.
 
There is quite a difference between the retail investor and the retail trader. For the most part I would think the retail investor is buy and hold. He/She may or may not out perform the index but for the most part they are probably building wealth.
The retail trader is probably losing.
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I think most of those investors are 401k. I also agree with you, that the majority
of traders will probably lose more than mom & pop relying on their 401k.
 
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