Restaurant workers quit at record rate

[VicBee]

@Relentless wants to believe that government's covid support is the reason low skilled/low pay jobs aren't being filled in the US, a tired Republican argument. Cut the free money and they will go back to their sub $10/hr jobs.

There are walls of local businesses here (and obviously all over the country right now) that cant operate because they couldn't financially stay open if they had to match what is being handed out as helicopter money.

And dont give me this "free market" shit. I know you are a fanboy of how the Fed handles the monetary policy. Their horrible mismanagement (among other major bodies of policy creation) will show itself in due time - just like it has historically.

It should be free markets and capitalism at work. Not with these cronie interventionists.

There you go again with selective intervention. Your thoughts on subsidizing businesses through tax incentives and loopholes? Your thoughts lowering taxes on the super wealthy? How upset are you about these distortions to the free market...

 

[BMK]

This is an interesting read, from early 2018:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/19/post-work-the-radical-idea-of-a-world-without-jobs

And here, from 1992, is Mr. Pink, explaining why he doesn't tip:

 

[Handle123]

Has it changed if you quit your job, one can't get unemployment, and if unemployment sends you to a job interview for waiter, almost impossible not to get the job. Hey, if you are educated in an economy shortage field you have better chances to get a better paying job, but if one's degree is basket weaving mostly likely saying "do you want to super size this" couple hundred times a day.

 

[morganist]

Workers have been leaving jobs in restaurants, bars and hotels at the highest rate in decades. Each month so far this year, around 5% of this massive workforce have called it quits. In May alone, that was 706,000 people.

Quits levels and rates by industry and region, seasonally adjusted: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.t04.htm

"They're just yelling the entire time"
Low wages are the most common reason people cite for leaving food service work. But in one recent survey, more than half of hospitality workers who've quit said no amount of pay would get them to return.

That's because for many, leaving food service had a lot to do also with its high-stress culture: exhausting work, unreliable hours, no benefits and so many rude customers.


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They need to improve the working conditions, if they want to retain staff. They must make enough money to be able to, so they should be looking at it.

 

[JSOP]

The point is the government is incentivizing laziness whether they mean to or want to admit it.

There is no such thing as laziness only necessity.

 

[murray t turtle]

Workers have been leaving jobs in restaurants, bars and hotels at the highest rate in decades. Each month so far this year, around 5% of this massive workforce have called it quits. In May alone, that was 706,000 people.

Quits levels and rates by industry and region, seasonally adjusted: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.t04.htm

"They're just yelling the entire time"
Low wages are the most common reason people cite for leaving food service work. But in one recent survey, more than half of hospitality workers who've quit said no amount of pay would get them to return.

That's because for many, leaving food service had a lot to do also with its high-stress culture: exhausting work, unreliable hours, no benefits and so many rude.......


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I SELDOM eat out;
local KFC went out of business , but back in business now. Most likely jacking up minimum wage is a loser\ for unskilled workers \profits
MCD pays profit sharing, thier drive in line is almost always busy/ good stock uptrend for many years . Not a stock tip........................................
AND never block drive in if drunk/police are trained to be good shots.

 

[JSOP]

This is an interesting read, from early 2018:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/19/post-work-the-radical-idea-of-a-world-without-jobs

And here, from 1992, is Mr. Pink, explaining why he doesn't tip:

In Japan, the wait staff would consider tipping an insult (Mr. Pink would fit right in in Japan) because they believe in the integrity and the dignity of a job well-done because they believe in doing a good job not because of financial incentives and if you tip them, they feel that you are cheapening the work that they do. So how do those restaurant workers in Japan live I sometimes wonder when they are living in a country that has some of the highest cost of living and the restaurant workers here supposedly rely on tips to survive.

 

[ffs1001]

One of the things that plays on the minds of Europeans like myself when we travel to the US is "Do we have to tip in this situation? How much is the norm? If I un-intentionally under-tip, will I be ridiculed?"
A simple matter which Americans take for granted and know how to do well (cos they've grown up with it) can be source of dis-comfort for foreigners.

Here's an example - a few years ago in Las Vegas, on the strip, we literally moved from one hotel to the next and used a taxi, due to having suitcases. The fare was $5. I handed over $8. The taxi driver gave me a dirty look as if to say "What the f**k?!", so, I gave another 2 to make it a round $10, and he literally said "That's better" like I was some child who had done something naughty and had to be reprimanded. (Luckily Uber now reduces that problem.)
I just felt violated in some way - it wasn't even the money, just the attitude.

An American friend who lives in the UK tells me that when he and his friends go out to a fancy bar in NYC, they'll give the barman a tip equal to the cost of the first round, so if the drinks cost $100, they'll tip $100, and then the barman looks after them for the rest of the night. I asked what happens if people don't tip the barman, or give a low tip, and the reply was that then you'll just get ignored all night. Hmmm.

PS - In England, you don't need to tip in a bar or pub. Buy your drinks, pay money, no drama.

 

[VicBee]

One of the things that plays on the minds of Europeans like myself when we travel to the US is "Do we have to tip in this situation? How much is the norm? If I un-intentionally under-tip, will I be ridiculed?"
A simple matter which Americans take for granted and know how to do well (cos they've grown up with it) can be source of dis-comfort for foreigners.

Here's an example - a few years ago in Las Vegas, on the strip, we literally moved from one hotel to the next and used a taxi, due to having suitcases. The fare was $5. I handed over $8. The taxi driver gave me a dirty look as if to say "What the f**k?!", so, I gave another 2 to make it a round $10, and he literally said "That's better" like I was some child who had done something naughty and had to be reprimanded. (Luckily Uber now reduces that problem.)
I just felt violated in some way - it wasn't even the money, just the attitude.

An American friend who lives in the UK tells me that when he and his friends go out to a fancy bar in NYC, they'll give the barman a tip equal to the cost of the first round, so if the drinks cost $100, they'll tip $100, and then the barman looks after them for the rest of the night. I asked what happens if people don't tip the barman, or give a low tip, and the reply was that then you'll just get ignored all night. Hmmm.

PS - In England, you don't need to tip in a bar or pub. Buy your drinks, pay money, no drama.

That's why Americans are well Iiked in the European service industries. They are generous with their money while European are used to service included and see tipping as unwarranted, although some European are worse than others.

 

[JSOP]

One of the things that plays on the minds of Europeans like myself when we travel to the US is "Do we have to tip in this situation? How much is the norm? If I un-intentionally under-tip, will I be ridiculed?"
A simple matter which Americans take for granted and know how to do well (cos they've grown up with it) can be source of dis-comfort for foreigners.

Here's an example - a few years ago in Las Vegas, on the strip, we literally moved from one hotel to the next and used a taxi, due to having suitcases. The fare was $5. I handed over $8. The taxi driver gave me a dirty look as if to say "What the f**k?!", so, I gave another 2 to make it a round $10, and he literally said "That's better" like I was some child who had done something naughty and had to be reprimanded. (Luckily Uber now reduces that problem.)
I just felt violated in some way - it wasn't even the money, just the attitude.

An American friend who lives in the UK tells me that when he and his friends go out to a fancy bar in NYC, they'll give the barman a tip equal to the cost of the first round, so if the drinks cost $100, they'll tip $100, and then the barman looks after them for the rest of the night. I asked what happens if people don't tip the barman, or give a low tip, and the reply was that then you'll just get ignored all night. Hmmm.

PS - In England, you don't need to tip in a bar or pub. Buy your drinks, pay money, no drama.

What that taxi driver in Las Vegas did was outrageous, a 50% tip?? Really? The rules, you are not even required to tip taxi drivers, period unless they did something extra to help you like if you had lots of luggage that they really helped you with but even that, it's 10% tip maximum. Bar staff, wait staff, cleaning staff and porters in the hotel, yes customarily but never at 100% of a round of drinks! That's almost like extortions. For hair salons, you tip only the staff hired by the salon and if it's the owner him/herself who did your hair, you don't even need to tip, the reason is obvious, he/she is the owner who is already taking home everything that he/she is earning in the salon so no need to double-paying him/her and nowadays they even want you to relax that and tip the owner as well. That is downright greedy if you ask me.