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Quote from Canoe007:

Nope. With almost all onboard video you'd be absolutely correct. But with Sandybridge it's a whole new architecture: integrated, not onboard. The GPU is integrated within the CPU case, possibly even on die. I'm told the CPU and GPU communicate at cache speed, so any handshaking between CPU, cache and GPU happens much faster.

Also, watch out for some new MBs coming out. Apparently with 8700 series GPUs on-board the MB.


p.s.
Watch the "bs" comments. I don't know how tolerant they are of that here and we're getting some good points ironed out for people to weight for their needs. Shame to lose that.
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Quote from Canoe007:

Nope. With almost all integrate video you'd be absolutely correct. But with Sandybridge it's a whole new architecture. The GPU is integrated within the CPU case, possibly even on die. I'm told the CPU and GPU communicate at cache speed, so any handshaking between CPU, cache and GPU happens much faster.

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According to early reviews, "onboard die graphics" still ain't no big deal. OK to run 1 monitor for internet, Word, etc., but even a $20 PCIE video card is still better.

Traders thinking of running more than 2 monitors should forget all about "onboard graphics" of any kind... unless they are anal about trying to save $20.
 
I just ordered my system guys and am looking forward to it. It should be extremely powerful but barebones which, it turns out, is exactly the way I want it.
It's basically the stock HP570T. (i7 2600)I only got 8gb of RAM (will add more if I need it - newegg seems much cheaper than HP) the stock 1.5TB hard drive and stock graphics chip. 27 inch monitor.
There's a coupon on logicbuy to get $100 off. So the computer (without monitor) was $780 which I think is a good price
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

According to early reviews, "onboard die graphics" still ain't no big deal. OK to run 1 monitor for internet, Word, etc., but even a $20 PCIE video card is still better.
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Sandybridge NOT = On-board Graphics

Well, the integrated on-die graphics aren't a big deal compared to the "enthusiast" graphic cards, but they're not the lack-luster on-board graphics we've all encountered and cringe when asked to fix for friends and family. Provided the integrated/MB has adequate outputs & resolution for your monitor(s), they should be more than adequate for the task of trading, and many more more-demanding tasks.

Where the integrated on-die graphics on the 2600K is a big deal, is it's speed so it gets the job done fast and more importantly, the CPU-GPU communication so that gets out of the way and lets the CPU fly and mange its resources.
Early reports my source (keep in mind he's tending to the extreme end of "enthusiast" - and that's not what his wife calls him) informed me of are that the Sandybridge (specifically the 2600K) gets the bulk of its benchmark from its resource sharing architecture, in structure, capability and its speed, with an additional significant benefit coming from the on-die graphics. Turning the on-die graphics off for a discrete graphics card removes that benefit and the benchmark suffers accordingly.

Like I said earlier: you'd be right for what we've seen before for on-board, but Sandybridge is game changing (at this point for non-enthusiast purposes); and, AMD 5800 (not 8700, don't know where I got that) series GPUs are expected out on-board 1336 MBs.
 
Quote from Bolimomo:

LOL... I will wait until Eyefinity 24 hits the market.
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Can't help you with the Eyefinity 24, but the 12?
I expect to be putting a new system together in the next few weeks. I'll let you know when I get the Eyefinity 6: the Eyefinity 12 should be out the next week...
 
Quote from Canoe007:

Sandybridge NOT = On-board Graphics

Well, the integrated on-die graphics aren't a big deal compared to the "enthusiast" graphic cards, but they're not the lack-luster on-board graphics we've all encountered and cringe when asked to fix for friends and family. Provided the integrated/MB has adequate outputs & resolution for your monitor(s), they should be more than adequate for the task of trading, and many more more-demanding tasks.

Where the integrated on-die graphics on the 2600K is a big deal, is it's speed so it gets the job done fast and more importantly, the CPU-GPU communication so that gets out of the way and lets the CPU fly and mange its resources.
Early reports my source (keep in mind he's tending to the extreme end of "enthusiast" - and that's not what his wife calls him) informed me of are that the Sandybridge (specifically the 2600K) gets the bulk of its benchmark from its resource sharing architecture, in structure, capability and its speed, with an additional significant benefit coming from the on-die graphics. Turning the on-die graphics off for a discrete graphics card removes that benefit and the benchmark suffers accordingly.

Like I said earlier: you'd be right for what we've seen before for on-board, but Sandybridge is game changing (at this point for non-enthusiast purposes); and, AMD 5800 (not 8700, don't know where I got that) series GPUs are expected out on-board 1336 MBs.
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I didn't mean to infer "onboard graphics chip". Perhaps I used the wrong term when referring to the video function being built into the CPU.

I've never understood the merit of having "onboard video chip" or this new "video function on the CPU. Perhaps the reason is that by saving the customer from having to buy a video card, the "onboard graphics" will make a better profit for Intel or mobo maker.. ??
 
Quote from radist:

For three monitors I need Adaptors: 2 additional Accell Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (graphics card package includes only 2) $40.00
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This is too quiet...

What happened to the 10-page a day speed? :D

Are you settled with your choice of the video card(s) now?
 
Sandy Bridge Chipset Shipments Halted Due To Bug

"Early adopters of Intel's new Sandy Bridge processors, beware. Intel has discovered a flaw in the 6-series chipsets that accompany the new processors. The flaw causes Serial ATA performance to 'degrade over time' in 'some cases.' Although Intel claims 'relatively few' customers are affected, it has stopped shipments of these chipsets and started making a revised version of the silicon, which won't be ready until late February. Intel expects to lose $300 million in revenue because of the problem, and it's bracing for repair and replacement costs of $700 million."

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/31/1629232/Sandy-Bridge-Chipset-Shipments-Halted-Due-To-Bug

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20326
 
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