You are the one who obviously believes in the veracity of the abstract of the study.
I mean that is what you based my need to apologize to freefilcher on ,wasn't it?
republicans. they cant all be this stupid? rape cant get a woman pregnant?
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You are the one who obviously believes in the veracity of the abstract of the study.
I mean that is what you based my need to apologize to freefilcher on ,wasn't it?
jem, you may also be interested in this:
http://www.acog.org/About_ACOG/News_Room/News_Releases/2012/Statement_on_Rape_and_Pregnancy
http://www.acog.org/About_ACOG/News_Room/News_Releases/2012/Statement_on_Rape_and_Pregnancy
Indeed. I am in the UK.
This makes the right abandon the thread. Or they will come and say they went to university, therefore, they are liberal.
so where do people like todd akin get their ridiculous ideas that a woman cant get pregnant from a rape.
other christians made it up in an attempt to deny abortion after a rape and it became a right wing meme.
you have to understand the mindset of these people. lying for jesus is not really a lie because the end justifies the means:
ST. LOUIS (RNS) "The question of rape always stirs the emotions whenever it is introduced into the abortion debate," Dr. Fred Mecklenburg wrote in 1972. "Unfortunately, the emotional impact of rape often clouds the real issues and the real facts."
Mecklenburg -- an assistant clinical professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Minnesota Medical School at the time -- could not have known how prescient his words would feel 40 years later.
While Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., cited only "doctors" as his source of information about the rarity of pregnancy resulting from rape, it is two pages, from Mecklenburg's 1972 article, "The Indications for Induced Abortion: A Physician's Perspective," that have influenced two generations of anti-abortion activists hoping to build a medical case to ban all abortions without exception.
In Mecklenburg's original article, he wrote that pregnancy resulting from rape "is extremely rare," and cited as an example the city of Buffalo, N.Y., which had not seen "a pregnancy from confirmed rape in over 30 years." Other cities -- Chicago, Washington, St. Paul -- also had experienced lengthy spells without a rape-caused pregnancy, Mecklenburg wrote.
The reasons were numerous: Not all rapes result in "a completed act of intercourse," Mecklenburg wrote. He added that it was "improbable" that a rape would occur "on the 1-2 days of the month in which the woman would be fertile."
Mecklenburg's third reason seems to have been picked up by Akin, who made his comments in a TV interview Sunday (Aug. 19).
A woman exposed to the trauma of rape, Mecklenburg wrote, "will not ovulate even if she is 'scheduled' to."
But a host of other research disputes Mecklenburg's conclusions, both on the scarcity of pregnancy following rape and natural defenses to prevent conception.
"From a scientific standpoint, what's legitimate and fair to say is that a woman who is raped has the same chances of getting pregnant as a woman who engaged in consensual intercourse during the same time in her menstrual cycle," said Dr. Barbara Levy, vice president for health policy at the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
One widely accepted study suggests a 5 percent pregnancy rate following rape, resulting in 32,000 pregnancies each year.
The report was from the Medical University of South Carolina and was published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology and cited by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...in-remarks_n_1823218.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
other christians made it up in an attempt to deny abortion after a rape and it became a right wing meme.
you have to understand the mindset of these people. lying for jesus is not really a lie because the end justifies the means:
ST. LOUIS (RNS) "The question of rape always stirs the emotions whenever it is introduced into the abortion debate," Dr. Fred Mecklenburg wrote in 1972. "Unfortunately, the emotional impact of rape often clouds the real issues and the real facts."
Mecklenburg -- an assistant clinical professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Minnesota Medical School at the time -- could not have known how prescient his words would feel 40 years later.
While Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., cited only "doctors" as his source of information about the rarity of pregnancy resulting from rape, it is two pages, from Mecklenburg's 1972 article, "The Indications for Induced Abortion: A Physician's Perspective," that have influenced two generations of anti-abortion activists hoping to build a medical case to ban all abortions without exception.
In Mecklenburg's original article, he wrote that pregnancy resulting from rape "is extremely rare," and cited as an example the city of Buffalo, N.Y., which had not seen "a pregnancy from confirmed rape in over 30 years." Other cities -- Chicago, Washington, St. Paul -- also had experienced lengthy spells without a rape-caused pregnancy, Mecklenburg wrote.
The reasons were numerous: Not all rapes result in "a completed act of intercourse," Mecklenburg wrote. He added that it was "improbable" that a rape would occur "on the 1-2 days of the month in which the woman would be fertile."
Mecklenburg's third reason seems to have been picked up by Akin, who made his comments in a TV interview Sunday (Aug. 19).
A woman exposed to the trauma of rape, Mecklenburg wrote, "will not ovulate even if she is 'scheduled' to."
But a host of other research disputes Mecklenburg's conclusions, both on the scarcity of pregnancy following rape and natural defenses to prevent conception.
"From a scientific standpoint, what's legitimate and fair to say is that a woman who is raped has the same chances of getting pregnant as a woman who engaged in consensual intercourse during the same time in her menstrual cycle," said Dr. Barbara Levy, vice president for health policy at the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
One widely accepted study suggests a 5 percent pregnancy rate following rape, resulting in 32,000 pregnancies each year.
The report was from the Medical University of South Carolina and was published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology and cited by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...in-remarks_n_1823218.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
that is a stat...
"Each year in the US, 10,000â15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest. An unknown number of pregnancies resulting from rape are carried to term. There is absolutely no veracity to the claim that âIf itâs a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.â A woman who is raped has no control over ovulation, fertilization, or implantation of a fertilized egg (ie, pregnancy). To suggest otherwise contradicts basic biological truths. "
conclusion -
Although the statement above implicitly contradicts fertility advice; being that so many pregnancies are reported as rape or incest, Akins position is not viable.
Yes. No, not too bad. Yes
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Yes. No, not too bad. Yes
A man of few words, I can appreciate that. I outsmarted myself on my last trip to London and Paris. Flew to Heathrow, bus to the Chunnel, then to the train, only cost me about 250euros over what it would have cost to fly directly to Paris.
What products do you prefer to trade?