republicans oppose teaching of “critical thinking skills”

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this is where religion fails. when we look at the claims of believers from outside we find no evidence. what you feel(emotion)is not evidence of anything.
let me explain that quote to you. every believer of every supernatural claim,even whichcraft,believes(has faith)that what they believe is true. if evidence is not required all claims are equally valid.
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I agree with that. Be very careful, most religious-like claims are not real.

But the (unsupported) belief that "science" is it, is even more misleading, because it closes the door to real knowledge. Like, for example, questioning who created the universe and everything (including things, humans, laws of nature, real and conceptual relationships, etc) in it.
 
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I'm not Catholic, I'm Orthodox, but I like the comparison, we do enjoy having special meals together, eg, every Sunday morning :)
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Be ye hot or cold, Yannis. Either you believe the bible is true, or you do not, this is the mandate of the book, from the book.
 
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The point is, discussable "things" exist because we define what they are, which necessarily also indicates what they are not. We give them a "boundary", and so divide.
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I see, and because of those boundaries we are limited. But this is not complex logic.

God is all knowing, all powerful. He hates evil.

The rest is self evident......
 
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is gods love a do as i say not as i do type of deal? the bible is chock full of murder and cruelty.

The basic ideal of Christianity, that of an all powerful father-figure demanding a blood sacrifice before he can change his own mind about whether or not to torture his own creations for eternity has never struck me as a model of ethics or morality. (Louis Cypher)
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Yes, there's a lot of murder and cruelty talked about in the Bible, and also even more love and self sacrifice... it's the human side of things, what these folks went through trying to approach God.

God was not torturing Abraham: as this man claimed to see and understand God, he received a very serious test which he handled beautifully. Like my daughter in College, trying to figure out (as we speak) what her hard to understand Chinese-American professor wants her to achieve in her research assistant's summer job in order to qualify for an excellent letter of recommendation.

Isaac was never in real danger because God knows we are all eternal, indestructible beings... worst case, Isaac would get an early promotion.
 
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Yes, there's a lot of murder and cruelty talked about in the Bible, and also even more love and self sacrifice... it's the human side of things, what these folks went through trying to approach God.

God was not torturing Abraham: as this man claimed to see and understand God, he received a very serious test which he handled beautifully. Like my daughter in College, trying to figure out (as we speak) what her hard to understand Chinese-American professor wants her to achieve in her research assistant's summer job in order to qualify for an excellent letter of recommendation.

Isaac was never in real danger because God knows we are all eternal, indestructible beings... worst case, Isaac would get an early promotion.
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God did however, strike some kids dead for calling a man baldy. Where is the lesson?

The next time your kid call you a name, kill it?
 
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Again this false, this is not what the bible states.

1 Corinthians 14:33

For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,

Now, what is this about the bible being a hard book?

Yannis, have you even READ your book??
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Yes, many times, trust me, it takes lots of patience, skill and prayerful attitude to understand and follow it. Every passage relates to a given time and special circumstances: in this case who St Paul was talking to and what question he was answering. Don't just take a sentence here and another one from there and expect to make sense.
 
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God did however, strike some kids dead for calling a man baldy. Where is the lesson?

The next time your kid call you a name, kill it?
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You are probably referring to Elisha... we know very little of the total circumstances of that event and it could have been very different than what it looks like.
 
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You are probably referring to Elisha... we know very little of the total circumstances of that event and it could have been very different than what it looks like.
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Yannis, is this the story documented in the bible, or not?
 
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