Republican Jewish Coalition Bars Ron Paul From Debate: ‘He’s misguided and extreme’

[Lucrum]

Quote from RCG Trader:

When it comes to war, the voters of that war should have some skin in the game. It's easy to send somebody else's kids to die. Congressmen who vote for war should have some kind of skin in the game.

I've been saying this for years.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Lucrum:

I didn't realize heat and air conditioning repair was such a dangerous MOS.
It is I have no doubt a job reserved only for the Army's best and brightest.
But in any case I have a certain respect for anyone who has taken time out of their lives to serve in our military. Even the likes of you.

I talked to a Marine recruiter just before HS graduation. Being a combat infantryman or a pilot are about the only two things I've ever really wanted to do. But Vietnam had only just ended several years earlier so with no wars on the horizon and having already started flight training I selfishly decided to continue to pursue flying.

I actually fly one sometimes. They're OK but grossly overpriced if you ask me. The one I fly cost the owner 1/2 a million new. In this economy and environment of severely depressed aircraft prices it might be worth $300,000.

I'd recommend something older to learn in. The avionics, while certainly gee whiz, are a bit much for a student to keep up with.

This is why the internet is dangerous. MOS designations change, sir. 91C was a medical designation in the 90's. Googling something does not tell the whole story.

Cirrus will flight train you in this aircraft with no experience required. I just wondered if it was worth the money to own one.

 

[DemZad]

Quote from Trader666:

OK... so many of you have shared, you've drawn me out. Basic and AIT at Fort Sill then off to the First Cavalry Division. I'll be able to assemble and disassemble an M16 with my eyes closed until the day I die and could probably still set the headspace and timing on an M2. I can cut down a tree with det cord and still tie a uli knot. I'm a combat veteran by the way and don't like to talk about it although I did tell Max E. Pad when I thanked him by PM for his Veterans Day thread.

Glad you made it out alive. This also gives me my answer concerning what you would do if another nations military "accidentally" blew up your family. The only thing I can say to you is try to remember that most human beings would probably feel the same as you would in that situation. Then, apply that to our foreign policy.

If we continue the cycle of violence, then the cycle of violence will continue. Violence begets violence. There is simply no way around it. Let's pull back, end the cycle of bloodshed, secure our borders and take care of our own house....if for no other reason than our house is crumbling and we simply cannot afford to finance our imperialism any longer.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Cirrus will flight train you in this aircraft with no experience required.

Well you're a step ahead then, since you have some experience. Or has your story changed - again? I'd still do my basic training in something with older "steam gauges" and no GPS. You'll be glad you did in the long run.

I just wondered if it was worth the money to own one.

I wouldn't spend that much on a fixed gear 4 seat 180 KT aircraft.

IMO the two biggest selling features of the SR22 are the avionics and the BRS.
Neither are worth what you'll pay for a Cirrus.

 

[Trader666]

"Glad you made it out alive" is nice but it should have been followed by an apology. Of course if you had the character to do that, you wouldn't have fabricated the chickenhawk bullshit and then hypocritically failed to prove your own ASSertion, to begin with.

Quote from DAS Trader:

Glad you made it out alive. This also gives me my answer concerning what you would do if another nations military "accidentally" blew up your family. The only thing I can say to you is try to remember that most human beings would probably feel the same as you would in that situation. Then, apply that to our foreign policy.

If we continue the cycle of violence, then the cycle of violence will continue. Violence begets violence. There is simply no way around it. Let's pull back, end the cycle of bloodshed, secure our borders and take care of our own house....if for no other reason than our house is crumbling and we simply cannot afford to finance our imperialism any longer.

 

[pspr]

Quote from Lucrum:

I wouldn't spend that much on a fixed gear 4 seat 180 KT aircraft.

IMO the two biggest selling features of the SR22 are the avionics and the BRS.
Neither are worth what you'll pay for a Cirrus.

We used to fly a Cessna 421 and 424 from Denver to Mexican resorts when I sold RE. I worked for retired Air Force pilots turned developers so they did the flying. It seems those planes were more like $300,000 for a twin. Maybe I'm wrong. We would just fly from ping to ping until we got into Mexico then it was stay on your heading until you hit the coast. I think the ceiling on 421's is about 22,000 ft.

These guys were very experienced pilots. Once one commented how he was glad the skies were clear so I asked him what if it weren't. He said we NEVER fly through a cloud on VFR. If we can't go around it we go back.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from pspr:

... He said we NEVER fly through a cloud on VFR. If we can't go around it we go back.

That actually seems odd. "Very experienced" all but implies they're instrument rated, in which case they simply had to file an IFR flight plan and you can fly through clouds all day long.

 

[pspr]

Quote from Lucrum:

That actually seems odd. "Very experienced" all but implies they're instrument rated, in which case they simply had to file an IFR flight plan and you can fly through clouds all day long.

I don't think the planes were rated for IFR. The 424 may have been. I never flew in that plane. This was 25-30 years ago. I'm sure if they were we would have been flying IFR. These guys were retired (20+ years) AF pilots (I think mostly tankers, etc. One guy had been a fighter pilot) so I'm sure they had extensive flight training.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from pspr:

I don't think the planes were rated for IFR...

It's certainly possible, though most twins are IFR equipped. Even back then.
You guys weren't flying below the radar to avoid the DEA were you?

 

[pspr]

Quote from Lucrum:

You guys weren't flying below the radar to avoid the DEA were you?

Geez. I wasn't going to bring that up. :eek: